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Well Im engaged!

My Man from Glasgow came here this past month and we are Engaged.

Hes been here to visit 2wice and will be here again in March. Im not done with my school til May 2006 and wanted to leave in August ( if I pass my State board test).

So!


should I wait to do all the paperwork after I pass the test?

should I start Immediately on the paperwork?

who makes the first move? ( Does he apply for me first or do we do it together?)

Im trying to make sense of everything I see on the Websites but its kind of hard to understand cause im and Audio Learner.

My Fiancé makes around 500 GBP per month.

I make around $1,800 American per month


I know we have to prove we can support ourselves without help from public funds....

do they frown upon such low income even if i were to save at least 4,000 GBP by august? ( Converted rate from American dollar ($8,000 american roughly)

will he be able to claim he is going to support me if need be in the time before we marry? I plan on getting married at least 2 weeks after I arrive in Glasgow...


ALSO!

I shall be living with Him, his sister and her boyfriend. I believe the mothers name is on the rent everymonth..... do you think immigration would be fussy? we will have a roof over our head and he doesnt use assistance from public funds anymore.....

he was on jobseekers allowance for a few months...... but now he has a job.....

THANKS A BUNCH!

TALK TO YOU SOON!





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Re: ok so dig it.............. I need advice and help on what to do First!
« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2005, 07:58:08 AM »
It would be a good idea to get a letter from a cosponsor who will say they can help you out with money. You will need their bank statements to prove that they can afford to do this.

You will need a letter from the landlord (your mom or whoever owns the home) saying you have permssion to live there.

I'm not sure about the rules for Scotland, but in England you would have to wait three weeks before arriving before you could marry. (One week residency to give notice, then an additional two week waiting period.)



Re: ok so dig it.............. I need advice and help on what to do First!
« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2005, 08:34:17 AM »
Hiya..
Just wondering if you have ever been to Glasgow to  visit your boyfriend?
Glasgow is my absolute favourite city in the UK, but it does have some very rough bits and some areas of shocking deprivation.

If you havent visited, i would recommend doing so before you make any commitments. 

Good luck!  :)


Re: ok so dig it.............. I need advice and help on what to do First!
« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2005, 01:38:53 PM »
No advise, just wanted to say 'Congratulations!'  :D


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Re: ok so dig it.............. I need advice and help on what to do First!
« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2005, 01:43:02 PM »
Hiya..
Just wondering if you have ever been to Glasgow to  visit your boyfriend?
Glasgow is my absolute favourite city in the UK, but it does have some very rough bits and some areas of shocking deprivation.

If you havent visited, i would recommend doing so before you make any commitments. 

Good luck!  :)

I agree. It's a great city, but the rough areas are VERY depressing and not a nice place to set up a life. Definitely visit first if you haven't already to see where exactly your fiance is living before you make any major commitments.

I'm about your age and  I've been in Glasgow about 2 years now with my Scottish fiance. If you have any questions, PM me.  :)
« Last Edit: November 28, 2005, 01:46:01 PM by Honeybee »
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Re: ok so dig it.............. I need advice and help on what to do First!
« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2005, 02:34:23 PM »
Glasgow doesn't have a monopoly on deprivation either.  There's parts of Manchester that are listed as hopelessly depressed.

And why does the Mercy run through Liverpool? 

Because if it didn't, it would get mugged...

 ;D


Re: ok so dig it.............. I need advice and help on what to do First!
« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2005, 04:07:01 PM »
Glasgow doesn't have a monopoly on deprivation either. 

no, but a male born and raised in the eastern part of glasgow, shettleston in particular, has the lowest life expectancy in the entire UK.  :(


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Re: ok so dig it.............. I need advice and help on what to do First!
« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2005, 06:26:14 PM »
no, but a male born and raised in the eastern part of glasgow, shettleston in particular, has the lowest life expectancy in the entire UK.  :(

That's probably partially due to the high rate of drug abuse in those areas. :-\\\\ It's pretty sad.
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Re: ok so dig it.............. I need advice and help on what to do First!
« Reply #8 on: November 28, 2005, 07:33:20 PM »
That's probably partially due to the high rate of drug abuse in those areas. :-\\\\ It's pretty sad.

it appears to be a combination of factors:  drug and alcohol abuse, poor diet, cigarette smoking and violence.


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Re: ok so dig it.............. I need advice and help on what to do First!
« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2005, 01:11:21 AM »
I'll echo what others have said -- make sure you know what you're getting into before you move!  I, too, lived in Glasgow, but fortunately had friends from there who were able to steer me in the right direction before I arrived, so I knew the area I was moving to was ok. 

I know that you love your boyfriend and all, but what may seem like a "good" area to him (because maybe he's always called that area "home") might seem downright dire to you, compared to life in the U.S.  And, some areas can seem very good, but then you walk a few blocks in a certain direction, and things deteriorate quickly. 

As for whether or not 4,000 GBP is enough, sit down and look over your budget.  Plane tickets, moving expenses, visa costs, wedding expenses, not to mention furniture, food, transportation, whatever -- all of it adds up.  Whatever you do, you need to take into account the fact that it will take you some time to find a job over there after you get married.  Please don't make the mistake of thinking that his Mum or his sister will help supplement his 500 quid a month income 'til you get settled. 

In addition to that, I'd advise that you try to find your own place either alone or with your fiance -- deciding to live with people you don't know very well (i.e. his family) may not be the best decision.  You have no guarantees that you will hit it off straight away.  I made the mistake of staying with my ex bf's family for 2 weeks upon arrival in Scotland while I waited for my uni accommodations to become available and it was horrific.  Even though I contributed money to the house, pitched in with tidying up and meal preparation, etc. they resented me for being there as they didn't know me very well and our relationship was strained from then on out as a result. 

Finally, not to be judgmental or anything, but I really think it's impossible to truly know somebody just from a couple of visits.  Is there no way that you could "try out" life in Scotland before you make things with your relationship permanent?  I mean, if you're studying full-time now, you'd be eligible to work in the UK on a BUNAC visa for 6 months after your studies end.  You may find that you love it there, or you may find that you hate it there.  But you should really give yourself some time to decide. 

Also, try to remember that people are different when they're on holiday.  They're relaxed and in a fabulous mood because they're escaping from everyday stress.  You don't really know a person until you see them daily, and see how they act under the pressures of everyday life and work.  How they interact with their families and friends.  What their social habits are. 

Just some food for thought, anyway...

Good luck!  :)
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Re: ok so dig it.............. I need advice and help on what to do First!
« Reply #10 on: November 30, 2005, 01:36:59 AM »
Wise words, hummingbird1978.  Several months ago, a lady posted here about going over to be with her fiance.  She was pregnant, and they'd planned to marry.  Things turned sour within a couple weeks and she returned to the U.S. to have her baby before the marriage happened.  He was very different on his home turf than he was when he visited her in the States.  His family also factored into things going bad.

Moving country is a very serious matter, and "good area" and "good wage" are subjective terms.  I agree with those who advise a long visit, if possible, before making such a huge decision.  Good luck with things! 


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« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2005, 10:20:05 AM »
Wise words, hummingbird1978.  Several months ago, a lady posted here about going over to be with her fiance.  She was pregnant, and they'd planned to marry.  Things turned sour within a couple weeks and she returned to the U.S. to have her baby before the marriage happened.  He was very different on his home turf than he was when he visited her in the States.  His family also factored into things going bad.

Moving country is a very serious matter, and "good area" and "good wage" are subjective terms.  I agree with those who advise a long visit, if possible, before making such a huge decision.  Good luck with things! 

Absolutely. I really can't stress this enough. Hummingbird is so right. Moving to the UK or any other country isn't always a perfect romantic adventure... in fact, it rarely is, because of all the homesickness and adjustments so many people face. You can't take it lightly. Also, you can't just assume that because you love the idea of living in the UK or Scotland means that you'll love actually LIVING there on a day-to-day basis. Seeing tourist attractions versus actually living in a country are entirely different things.

Plus, people can be VERY different once you really know them on their home turf. I've spoken to people who are in absolute misery because they are trapped married to someone who seemed much different online than they do in real life and don't know how to get out. It can be disastrous if you don't spend PLENTY of time with the person actually living with them before you make any huge commitments to them. Anyone can pretend to be a perfect gentleman online, and even keep up that act the first couple of times you meet.

I made the move over in a way that would give me options... I came over as a student. I knew that if I didn't end up liking it or if my guy and I broke up for some reason, I could always go home. I also knew if I ended up loving it, I could stay. I didn't rush into any major commitments and I have given myself time to decide whether or not being here is for me.

By the way, this isn't just directed at Caroline... this is for anyone.
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« Reply #12 on: November 30, 2005, 10:56:56 AM »
Plus, people can be VERY different once you really know them on their home turf. I've spoken to people who are in absolute misery because they are trapped married to someone who seemed much different online than they do in real life and don't know how to get out. It can be disastrous if you don't spend PLENTY of time with the person actually living with them before you make any huge commitments to them. Anyone can pretend to be a perfect gentleman online, and even keep up that act the first couple of times you meet.

Exactly!  Although it worked out for me in the end, I , too moved here to be with my online mate, who turned out to be an abusive alcoholic. 

Please be careful!


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Poor expat! :(
« Reply #13 on: November 30, 2005, 02:35:50 PM »
What did you decide to do once you discovered this about your husband, expat_in_scotland?

I'm in Dundee, by the way. Anyone fancying a pint should PM me.


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« Reply #14 on: November 30, 2005, 02:40:56 PM »
What did you decide to do once you discovered this about your husband, expat_in_scotland?

I'm in Dundee, by the way. Anyone fancying a pint should PM me.

This was not my husband, but an ex-fiance.
« Last Edit: November 30, 2005, 02:44:50 PM by expat_in_scotland »


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