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Re: Food questions
« Reply #15 on: January 19, 2006, 09:33:04 AM »
More interesting Tuna news, but for children..
though a whole tin of tuna every day seems a bit nutty to me.. so much for a balanced diet..  :-\\\\

The Sunday Times    August 07, 2005

Fears over health risk to children of mercury in tuna
THE GOVERNMENT is to conduct new research into the levels of mercury in fish amid claims that children who eat too much tuna may develop learning difficulties, writes Jon Ungoed-Thomas.

The Food Standards Agency (FSA) warned pregnant women two years ago to limit their consumption of tuna to two cans a week to protect their unborn children.

There are now concerns — echoing health fears in America — that children should be prevented from eating too much tuna because its flesh becomes contaminated more than most fish with mercury from polluted waters.

An FSA spokesman said this weekend that it would fund research to improve testing for mercury in fish.

Concerns have been raised following the case of an American child who developed learning difficulties after eating a portion of tuna a day. Doctors who conducted blood tests concluded the child was suffering from mercury poisoning.

Michael Bender, director of the Mercury Policy Project, a non-profit organisation that campaigns for reduced mercury pollution, said: “The FSA needs to take the next step and recommend a proper limit for the amount of tuna children can eat.”

Mercury occurs naturally in the environment, but is also released into the air through industrial pollution which is taken into the sea by rain. Fish absorb it as they feed, but some larger predators such as tuna are more likely to have higher concentrations because they feed on smaller fish.

Concern over the potential risk was highlighted in Britain after a study in the Faroe Islands in 1997. It concluded that children exposed in the womb to mercury had difficulties with learning, memory and attention.

Although the fishing industry argued the study was flawed, the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) in America subsequently set recommended safety limits for the amount of mercury in adults’ and children’s diets.

In Britain the FSA advised children not to eat shark, marlin and swordfish. Tuna has, however, been exempt from restrictions because tests showed it had lower mercury levels. On the other hand, it is a fish that is popular with children.

The FSA said last week there was “no upper limit” for children eating canned tuna. Campaigners, however, say the FSA should now give parents guidelines on the amount of tuna children can eat.

In California it has emerged that Matthew Davis, 10, consumed a portion a day of white albacore tuna. Although he had previously seemed bright and motivated, he started to have learning difficulties.

His parents became concerned when they noticed his fingers were starting to curl, as if he was holding a ball. A neurologist ordered blood tests and it was found he was suffering from mercury poisoning.

An FSA spokesman said last week that only a small quantity of tuna in Britain was albacore. He added the agency was recommending to the European Union that it funded research to establish the potential risk.
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Re: Food questions
« Reply #16 on: January 19, 2006, 01:17:08 PM »
Do midwives not mention it in the UK?  How strange.

The midwife I have seen on just one occasion, mentioned nothing about diet.


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Re: Food questions
« Reply #17 on: January 19, 2006, 04:55:21 PM »
I was told no liver, no pate, no moldy or unpasteurized cheeses, nothing but hard boiled eggs, no peanuts, no raw fish and no deli meat. I've ignored all of it!

Well, not entirely true. I've had sushi but from M&S with the smoked salmon and cooked 'crab'. I don't like liver or pate really so no worries there. Pre-pregnancy I was a cheese FREAK but now can take it or leave it. Though I did have a bacon bleu burger at a restaurant. Think I had brie once, too. I have no nut allergies so ignored that. And eggs are one of the few things I've been able to eat when I was off most food so I have had those and definitely not hard boiled. I do like deli meats but have more or less gone off sandwiches so have had very little.

In France they recommend liver, cheeses and pate. In Japan uncooked fish is not forbidden. Just use your common sense!
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Re: Food questions
« Reply #18 on: January 19, 2006, 05:21:08 PM »
I was told no liver, no pate, no moldy or unpasteurized cheeses

EEEwwww.  No probs there.  The nuts thing is supposedly for folks who have nut allergies in thei families, I thought.


Re: Food questions
« Reply #19 on: January 19, 2006, 05:23:29 PM »
I had it all before I knew I was pregnant.   :o

Now I'm a lot more careful and I heat my lunchmeat till it is steaming in the microwave.  I don't like to take too many chances.


Re: Food questions
« Reply #20 on: January 19, 2006, 08:23:57 PM »
EEEwwww.  No probs there.  The nuts thing is supposedly for folks who have nut allergies in thei families, I thought.

Just an FYI... neither my husband nor I have any food allergies.  My son has several.

Yes, food allergies can be passed on to a child.   However, any allergy a parent has can manifest itself in a child as a food allergy.  We found that out the hard way. :-\\\\


Re: Food questions
« Reply #21 on: January 19, 2006, 08:26:15 PM »
Oh wow, I din't know that!!!  But don't most people have some sort of  allergy or another. 

Both Rich and I are allergic to cats, poor Jr.


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Re: Food questions
« Reply #22 on: January 19, 2006, 10:22:57 PM »
EEEwwww.  No probs there.  The nuts thing is supposedly for folks who have nut allergies in thei families, I thought.

Not for peanuts.  According to what I have read, children can become sensitisied to peanuts if they eat them very young.


Re: Food questions
« Reply #23 on: January 19, 2006, 10:30:31 PM »
Not for peanuts.  According to what I have read, children can become sensitisied to peanuts if they eat them very young.

Again, not always.  My son has never eaten a peanut and is allergic to them.  In fact, when I asked our allergist to test for peanuts he told me that he didn't think it was going to be a positive test because we hadn't fed him any kind of nuts up to that point.  :-\\\\

The one thing I've learned about food allergies is that there are no absolutes - sometimes sensitivities simply happen.


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Re: Food questions
« Reply #24 on: January 20, 2006, 08:51:35 AM »
I had it all before I knew I was pregnant.   :o

Now I'm a lot more careful and I heat my lunchmeat till it is steaming in the microwave.  I don't like to take too many chances.

It's basically to keep you safer from food poisoning.  Listeria, E-coli and samonella.  You will likely survive the poisoning, but your fetus may not or may suffer from other complications.

I would think that blue cheeses or any cheese heated up to a certain point to kill bacteria would be fine. 

I read about the sashimi and Japan thing.  It seems that pg women will eat sashimi and other sushi containing raw fish, but from only very specific high quality places.  The problem here in the UK and the USA I would think is that you would not be guaranteed the freshness of the fish you would get in Japan.

It's not about the food so much as the possibility of contamination by bacteria.  I mean if you think about deli meat, doyou know how long it's been open, to what temps it has been exposed and who in heck has touched it? :-X So good move Stacey.

The only execption is pate and liver which are just high in Vitamin A which has been linked to birth defects. (That and pate can harbour bacteria as well.) 

Anyways it is all very interesting to say the least.  I mean I think the risks are low overall, but the question reamains to me: Is it worth eating those foods, even if the risk is low?  What if you are the one that gets sick?

As for allergies, I hope they don't get mine. :P
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Re: Food questions
« Reply #25 on: January 20, 2006, 10:49:53 PM »
I guess it's how you approach it.  I just see life as everything in moderation; pregnancy as a normal bodily function, not a scary medical condition.  After many years of injuries and surgeries that lead me to practice yoga, I learned to listen to and trust my body and my intuition more than anything or anyone else.  It's not failed me yet.

If I craved a PB&J I had it.  If I wanted a pina colada - which I wanted SOOO badly the fortnight before I had Aillidh, during record-breaking heat - I had one.  Etc.

Taking risks and being reckless are two very different things.  And what one sees as a risk others see as liberation or just following what their own body tells them.



Re: Food questions
« Reply #26 on: January 20, 2006, 10:59:39 PM »
And what one sees as a risk others see as liberation or just following what their own body tells them.

I like the idea of a pina colada as liberation!  Set us free!!  Pina Coladas for everyone! ;D


Re: Food questions
« Reply #27 on: January 21, 2006, 08:51:00 AM »
I like the idea of a pina colada as liberation!  Set us free!!  Pina Coladas for everyone! ;D

It was by far the best pina I'd ever tasted!  Still didn't set off labour, tho.  A country ride in an old banger did that. 

My mum felt anxious about her first birth.  Doctor told her to drink some wine and have a bath.

She went into labour the next morning.


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Re: Food questions
« Reply #28 on: January 21, 2006, 10:02:25 AM »
Well the key in life is moderation isn't it?  I think the guidelines are important for the few who unfortunately think that 20 pina coladas in one night is a good idea.  Or the person eating raw eggs every day etc.. and yes people like that exist. 

It's like the article on tuna where the boy had tuna EVERY day for zonks... my question is why?  How is tuna every day a balanced diet?  :-\\\\
The wiring in our brain is not static, not irrevocably fixed.  Our brains are adaptable. -Mattieu Ricard

Being ignorant is not so much a shame as being unwilling to learn. -Benjamin Franklin

I have long since come to believe that people never mean half of what they say, and that it is best to disregard their talk and judge only their actions. -D.Day


Re: Food questions
« Reply #29 on: January 21, 2006, 10:30:10 AM »
All I can say is that some cravings during pregnancy are very, very powerful.  The body is trying to tell you something.


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