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Lecturer's strike
« on: March 07, 2006, 10:40:01 AM »
Is this effecting anyone? I got an email stating we need to submit our work on time and it will be assessed but not graded.  It's up to the university how and when grades will be given. CRAZY!!!


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Re: Lecturer's strike
« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2006, 10:50:07 AM »
I saw they were out picketing at ULeicester today on my way to work.
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Re: Lecturer's strike
« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2006, 10:52:13 AM »
Yes, picketing at U of Warwick today also. Reports of traffic being a real nightmare that way this morning.


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Re: Lecturer's strike
« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2006, 11:11:21 AM »
Not affecting me - my work isn't due until May 15th! However, I have so much I have started last week. I have no lecutres today, but I hope it doesn't last much longer b/c I do have lecture on thursday. I saw a leaflet about it, but I have a hard time thinking it doesn't hurt the students. As difficult a job it is to be a teacher, I think they have it easier than most teachers in public schools.
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Re: Lecturer's strike
« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2006, 01:03:11 PM »
I am "off" today. At first, I was having a heart attack, because I have a very important class today. It has been rescheduled though.

Since my mom is an educator, I support their cause. My first submission is not until next week, so I am okay.  8)

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Re: Lecturer's strike
« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2006, 01:23:17 PM »
DH is an academic and just applied for a job at ULeicester.  I have to support them too..
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Re: Lecturer's strike
« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2006, 11:42:19 PM »
they had a strike at UWE on the 7th of march (whatever tuesday is around the 7th) - haven't heard anything more though. 


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Re: Lecturer's strike
« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2006, 08:07:20 AM »
Since DH got me posting in this board (on the Wifes thread), I thought I'd chime in here with a perspective from the other side.

I just started as a Lecturer in September.  I don't pretend to know enough about the issues involved to make a determination about the appropriateness of the strike; I just got here! I'd gotten some brochures from the Union a while ago, and was thinking about investigating what it meant to be part of it, to see if I wanted to join.  Now, I think waiting for a while may be the best thing.... 

The first I heard about the strike was getting a mysterious email from the University telling me that if I was planning to go on strike, I should tell my HR manager so they could deduct 1/365 of my salary.  What I do know is gleaned from hearsay and a single article I read in the school newspaper.  However, in the article they mentioned that one of the issues was that faculty salary had dropped 40% relative to cost of living over the last two decades.  This struck me as definitely having a point.  I knew that getting a position in the UK would mean a lower salary for me, and the differential between the salaries I was looking at in the US and UK was about 40% (i.e., 40% higher in the US).

And there is probably also the issue, at least for the sciences, of being competitive with industry.  A friend who just got her PhD last year is now working for industry and is making over twice what I make, when I have 4 years postdoctoral experience.  I expect that I could make 3 to 4 times my current salary if I worked in industry.  I'm obviously not in it for the money, otherwise I'd be in industry right now, but I always keep in the back of my mind that if things get too tight (or really, stay as tight...remember, DH is in school!) I can always leave academics and get a better paying job elsewhere.

As difficult a job it is to be a teacher, I think they have it easier than most teachers in public schools.

And just to comment on this:  First, I definitely think that teaching in public schools is hard, and at least in the US (I have no knowledge about the UK on this), teachers are underpaid, overworked, and underappreciated.  I know I wouldn't want to try handling the job.

But... a University Lecturer does a whole lot more than teaching.  Even at mainly teaching institutions (at least in the US, where I have knowledge) there is a triumvirate: Teaching, Service, and Research, where you are supposed to spend 1/3 of your time on each.  And this is opposed to larger universities, where teaching may be considerably less of your time.

In my first year, I'm doing barely any teaching (3 hours this semester, which for the seminar style class I have requires very little preparation, leading to only about 7hrs total of teaching effort on my part for the whole semester).  But I work 50-60 hrs a week (DH can testify that I was in tears just earlier this week about having too much to do and simply not enough stamina to work longer).  And if you're wondering what it is that I do in all this time, its: doing research, writing grants to get money to do research, telling others about the research I've done by writing papers and giving talks, plus a bunch of meetings and committees and stuff (and writing grants, writing grants, writing grants, or at least that's what it feels like in this first year).

In all, I just hope this strike gets sorted out soon.  Mostly I'd just like to see it end so that no-one has to face having degrees held up; and personally, that my DH doesn't have his Masters held up and have to deal with how to continue onto the PhD program without it.  And selfishly, I'd love it if it ended with some more money for Lecturers, and this somehow filtered its way up to Scotland, so I could be not so broke anymore :)


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Re: Lecturer's strike
« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2006, 04:26:44 PM »

In my first year, I'm doing barely any teaching (3 hours this semester, which for the seminar style class I have requires very little preparation, leading to only about 7hrs total of teaching effort on my part for the whole semester).  But I work 50-60 hrs a week (DH can testify that I was in tears just earlier this week about having too much to do and simply not enough stamina to work longer).  And if you're wondering what it is that I do in all this time, its: doing research, writing grants to get money to do research, telling others about the research I've done by writing papers and giving talks, plus a bunch of meetings and committees and stuff (and writing grants, writing grants, writing grants, or at least that's what it feels like in this first year).
I totally understand!  DH is exactly this and unless you live the life, you have no idea. Grants are the worst.  He got a permanent, hard money position in basic research here which is why we came to the UK.  The temptation of industry is always there though. When the frustration level is high, we feel like pitching it all and selling out to the highest bidder.  Good luck with your grants.  i'll keep my fingers crossed for you.   
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Re: Lecturer's strike
« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2006, 01:44:42 PM »
Thanks MrsPink!

I've got a grant due a week from today, and boy am I stressed!  What field is your DH in? I'm in computational biology.

One thing that is nice about UK positions is that hard money really means hard money.  Back in the US most Uni's require you to raise anywhere from 25%-75% of your salary from grants--and that's just the part in the contract.  There's also the unwritten rule that if you want tenure it better be more like 30-50% (at a 25% institution) or 100% (at a 75% institution).  Of course, now with FEC starting this fall in the UK (has your DH encountered that?) things could change..  but right now at least my Uni is more concerned about us getting too much salary from grants and demanding commensurately lowered responsibilities, than they are about requiring us to raise our own salary.  I hope it stays that way.


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Re: Lecturer's strike
« Reply #10 on: April 21, 2006, 01:46:54 AM »
Yeah, but only two out of my five professors are involved I think...  :-\\\\   All I know is somebody else better grade it...
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Re: Lecturer's strike
« Reply #11 on: April 24, 2006, 09:00:41 AM »
Latest from the rumor mill -i.e. from talking to my prof who is on strike:

The union and the universities have both agreed to bring in the government labour negotiation team (those who have lived in the UK longer can fill in the relevent acronyms). He says this is usually a good sign that a settlement is coming.

One wrinkle he mentioned is that the term in Scotland ends two weeks before the term in England. He expects they will push to get a settlement before end of term in England, which could still cause problems for students in Scotland.

Either way it doesn't matter much yet for me. The University Admin has said that Master's students can advance to the thesis even if all their grades are not in.

And, as the husband of a faculty member (ardenbird) I have mixed feelings about the whole issue. It would be nice if she gets a raise out of the deal. But mostly we aren't terribly concerned here.

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Re: Lecturer's strike
« Reply #12 on: June 07, 2006, 04:07:18 PM »
Read today the lecturers stirke is over. They agreedo on a 13.5% pay rise.
Fantastic news for me as my last two assignments were returned with comments but not graded. Very frustrating!


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Re: Lecturer's strike
« Reply #13 on: June 11, 2006, 06:55:12 PM »
Read today the lecturers stirke is over. They agreedo on a 13.5% pay rise.
Fantastic news for me as my last two assignments were returned with comments but not graded. Very frustrating!

Me too! Phew.

The whole witholding of the grades became a tad annoying.

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Re: Lecturer's strike
« Reply #14 on: June 11, 2006, 08:39:55 PM »
Me too! Phew.

The whole witholding of the grades became a tad annoying.
It was!! Were you affected at all?


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