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disastrous oversight
« on: March 21, 2006, 09:25:33 PM »
I think I really goofed here with my cat. I did the microchip, vaccine and rabies test in Feb. 2005 when we were thinking we'd be heading over that summer.  It was a three-year vaccine, which the PETS helpline approved, but I didn't realize I needed to get a booster within a year of the vaccine. Now I have to start the whole process again, right? We're due to move to the UK in just over 3 months, which means we're screwed.  Our cat will have to stay with some good Samaritan for a few months and that person will have to take care of the paperwork with the USDA and have the tick and worm tests done.

Am I correct in this? (It's okay, I won't shoot the messenger.)



Re: disastrous oversight
« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2006, 09:40:28 PM »
email Defra, they will get back to you.  Your best bet for correct info is them.  GOOD LUCK!


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Re: disastrous oversight
« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2006, 11:00:17 PM »
I think I really goofed here with my cat. I did the microchip, vaccine and rabies test in Feb. 2005 when we were thinking we'd be heading over that summer.  It was a three-year vaccine, which the PETS helpline approved, but I didn't realize I needed to get a booster within a year of the vaccine. Now I have to start the whole process again, right? We're due to move to the UK in just over 3 months, which means we're screwed.  Our cat will have to stay with some good Samaritan for a few months and that person will have to take care of the paperwork with the USDA and have the tick and worm tests done.

Am I correct in this? (It's okay, I won't shoot the messenger.)



I don't understand what you mean....u needed a booster within one year of the vaccine? what does this mean?


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Re: disastrous oversight
« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2006, 12:57:58 PM »
I should say that my dog has a three year vaccine as well, so I cannot understand if your pet has the same, why you'd need to get a booster shot one year into the three years.
Am I understanding you correctly?


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Re: disastrous oversight
« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2006, 02:02:23 PM »
You mean I could be wrong about this? I thought I read this in one of the earlier threads, Pets Scheme for Dummies. Maybe I misread it.

Yes, I will contact DEFRA. I hope I AM wrong about this!



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Re: disastrous oversight
« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2006, 05:51:23 PM »
Hi,
My cats got the 3 year vaccine and never had to have a booster before they came over. (He's actually sitting her on my lap as I type this.)  I don't think you have to have one.  My vet specifically gave the 3 year vaccine to cover us. I know it does seem to get a bit confusing because you want to get it all correct.  I THINK as long as you have all the paperwork you need and all vaccines fit the timeline you should be fine. I vaguely remember something about reading of a booster but my vet assured me that was why he was going to give the 3 year.


I think I really goofed here with my cat. I did the microchip, vaccine and rabies test in Feb. 2005 when we were thinking we'd be heading over that summer.  It was a three-year vaccine, which the PETS helpline approved, but I didn't realize I needed to get a booster within a year of the vaccine. Now I have to start the whole process again, right? We're due to move to the UK in just over 3 months, which means we're screwed.  Our cat will have to stay with some good Samaritan for a few months and that person will have to take care of the paperwork with the USDA and have the tick and worm tests done.

Am I correct in this? (It's okay, I won't shoot the messenger.)


"Be completely humble and patient, bearing with one another in love"  Ephesians 4:2

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Re: disastrous oversight
« Reply #6 on: March 23, 2006, 01:27:15 AM »
Thank you, thank you! This has truly made my day. I misread something from earlier on, but you have cleared that up for me. Now I can relax and wait for those last-two-week procedures.


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Re: disastrous oversight
« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2006, 03:09:05 AM »
How did you get a certified copy of the blood test results? I'm confused about that one...  ???


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Re: disastrous oversight
« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2006, 09:20:34 AM »
How did you get a certified copy of the blood test results? I'm confused about that one...  ???

You or your vet should have sent it off the one of the recognized labs who then in turn would have put their signature on it and mailed it back to your vet.  It should have been the "Request for FAVN-OIE Rabies Antibody Test" form.
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Re: disastrous oversight
« Reply #9 on: March 23, 2006, 09:00:51 PM »
Whispersarah, just want to get one thing straight (before I breathe easy):  Did you fly to the UK with your cat over a year after you got the three-year vaccine? A year has just passed and we won't be making the crossing for another three months.  Thanks for sharing your experience!


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Re: disastrous oversight
« Reply #10 on: March 23, 2006, 11:44:01 PM »
To answer straight, no I did not.  I have copied and pasted what the DEFRA site says about this and below that I have explained what my vet told me when I asked him about the booster.

Defra says:
[b]Record of vaccination
Enter the following details in section IV of the animal’s passport or official third country veterinary certificate if the animal is being prepared in a non-EU listed country, and vaccination record:
its date of birth/age
the microchip number, date of insertion and its location in the animal
date of vaccination
the vaccine manufacturer, product name and batch number
the date by which the booster vaccination must be given (the “Valid until” date) (calculated by reference to the vaccine manufacturer’s data sheet[/i]

Revaccination (boosters)

After an animal has been vaccinated, it must be given booster vaccinations to remain qualified for PETS (but it doesn't say when, does it? my words here). This must be done by the “Valid until” date on the animal’s EU pet passport, third country veterinary certificate or PETS certificate and recorded in section IV of the passport and on the animal’s vaccination record. The revaccination interval for cats] (again my emphasis) may be different to that for dogs (refer to the vaccine manufacturer’s data sheet). Read the microchip before revaccination.

If the booster date is missed, the animal will have to be vaccinated and blood tested again. The details in section V of the passport headed “In case of a further test” must then be completed – in Great Britain by an LVI. The animal will have to wait 6 calendar months from the date a blood sample was taken that gave satisfactory result following revaccination before it may enter the UK under PETS.

The next step is either a blood test or, for a pet not returning to the UK, or whose owner wants the blood sample to be taken in another listed country, issue a passport. Note that a blood test is required for PETS to enter Malta and, from countries other than the UK, the Republic of Ireland.

Page last modified: February 21, 2006 [/i][/b]

My vet said that most people in the states give their pets the yearly vaccination but because we were giving them the 3 year vaccine that would mean they would need their booster (on the Pet Travel Scheme document it refers to the Valid Until date)  right before that valid until date was up.  If you will look back up under the section that says "Record of Vaccination" it says the date by which the booster vaccination must be given (the “Valid until” date) (calculated by reference to the vaccine manufacturer’s data sheet).   
Here is my situation.
Cats vaccinated for 3 years on May 7th, 2003 (Valid until date is May 7th, 2006)
Wait 30 days do blood draw on June 9th, 2003
6 months from this date they can leave provided they have all clear (they did).
If I waited longer than this it would have been ok because I had until the "valid until date". Meaning I had until May 7th, 2006) It doesn't say how long after you have and you can't go because it's valid until the valid until date! lol

But I will say I am not 100% on this.  This was according my vet almost 3 years ago. Unless some thing has changed since then. My question for you is, does your vet not have the answer to this?  My vet was ever so helpful and always called me back once he found out.  I would be glad to pass along my vets number if you want to ring him.  He wouldn't care!!  :)
 
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Re: disastrous oversight
« Reply #11 on: March 24, 2006, 01:50:28 AM »
My question for you is, does your vet not have the answer to this?  My vet was ever so helpful and always called me back once he found out.  I would be glad to pass along my vets number if you want to ring him.  He wouldn't care!!  :)
 

It is the pet owners responsibility to make sure everything is done correctly.  Every vet is not responsible for knowing about the regulations for each different country.  That is why we, the pet owners, must find out all the info from DEFRA directly.  Some vets are more knowledgeable and helpful and others are not.  DEFRA is pretty good about returning emails with questions.  I had to tell my vet what I needed them to do, according to DEFRA.

Airmom, I hope everything works out with getting your kitty over here!


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Re: disastrous oversight
« Reply #12 on: March 24, 2006, 09:11:43 AM »
I must have had a great vet then.  He had never done any of this before when I had requested to have it done as it was a brand new scheme. All I had to do was give him all the information I printed off the website about the Pet Scheme and he did the rest.  Actually in fact, we worked together.  I scrunitized everything while he found the answers out to my questions.  It amazes me that some vets wouldn't care enough to actually take that step to help you out.
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Re: disastrous oversight
« Reply #13 on: March 24, 2006, 06:43:29 PM »
Okay, it says the expirations date is 2/16/08. Sounds promising. I'll run it by DEFRA to be safe.

Our vet has also been terrific. She was the one who raised the question of whether we needed to re-do some of the steps after the year's lapse. (The PETS helpline said we were okay.) She'd helped move a cat to Singapore I think, so she knew a bit about this and was definitely on the ball.


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Re: disastrous oversight
« Reply #14 on: March 24, 2006, 07:32:16 PM »
Sounds like you are working with a good vet!  :)
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