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Easy, idiot proof bagel recipe?
« on: February 05, 2007, 08:26:53 AM »
I thought I'd have a go at making some bagels as we haven't found anywhere near us to buy good ones (yet).  But I'm not the best baker so if anyone has a foolproof recipe they can share, that would be great.  Thanks!


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Re: Easy, idiot proof bagel recipe?
« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2007, 08:33:31 AM »
Yeah, give me time to get breakfast into Sammy and I'll post one here. Bear in mind, of course, that anything with yeast and rising is subject to problems - but I've had good luck with this one...
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Re: Easy, idiot proof bagel recipe?
« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2007, 09:36:38 AM »
Now, I'm not sure any bagel recipe can be deemed easy if you want the real thing. They are, ultimately, rather time consuming rather than hard though. So it's more a question of getting the timing to work with all your other things to do than anything else!

This is from Nigella who based it on George Greenstein's Secrets of a Jewish Baker.

1kg strong white bread flour, plus more for kneading
1 tbsp salt
7g sachet easy-blend yeast (make sure your yeast is not past it's sell by date!)
2 tbsp sugar
1 tbsp vegetable oil, plus more for greasing
500ml warm water, plus more as needed
2 tbsp sugar for poaching
2-3 baking sheets oiled or greased

Combine flour, salt, and yeast together in a large bowl. Add sugar and oil to the water. Make a well in the dry ingredients and add the liquid, mixing to a dough with a spatula or wooden spoon.

Knead the dough either by hand or with a dough hook, trying to add more flour if you can. You are aiming for a dry dough. It will be stiff and hard work but you need to knead until you have a smooth, elastic dough. This can take 15 mintues or more (this is where I draft in DH but we've finally ordered the transformer for my Kitchen Aid so hopefully it'll be easier next time!).

Form the dough into a ball and put it into an oiled bowl, turning once to coat all round. Then cover the bowl with oiled clingfilm and leave to rise for about 1 hour. It should be well risen and when you poke it with your finger the impression should remain. If your kitchen is cold, you need to put the dough somewhere warm to rise.

Punch the dough down really well and give it a good knead. Then divide into 3 parts. Roll each part into a rope and cut each rope into 5 pieces. Roll each piece again into a rope and then curl and pinch the ends to form a ring. Place the bagels on the baking sheets, cover with tea towels and allow to rise for 20 minutes until puffy.  Meanwhile, bring a large pot of water to boil and once boiling, add sugar.

Preheat oven to 240C/Gas Mark 9 (yes, that hot). Once the water is boiling and the bagels are nice and puffy, poach them 2-3 at a time for about 1 minute, turning once. Once poached, place back on the baking sheet, well spaced. Bake for 10-15 minutes until they are shiny and golden brown.

Makes 15 bagels. I freeze all but 4 as I find bagels keep better that way.

You can add toppings such as poppy seeds, salt, or sesame just after poaching. Place your topping of choice in a shallow dish and gently press the poached bagel into it (shake off excess water first!).

Good luck!
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Re: Easy, idiot proof bagel recipe?
« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2007, 10:06:59 AM »
Thanks Caryn! I'm going out to get the flour and yeast now. Will let you know how it goes!


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Re: Easy, idiot proof bagel recipe?
« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2007, 04:28:02 PM »
Ok well I made them but maybe I made them a bit too big because they're crusty on the outside but still doughy inside.  ???


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Re: Easy, idiot proof bagel recipe?
« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2007, 04:44:48 PM »
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Re: Easy, idiot proof bagel recipe?
« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2007, 05:16:20 PM »
Just a few thoughts- are you broiling them too long? I don't let mine get very brown at all at that stage. 
Also, when you bake them, turn the oven down a bit, even if they have to cook a bit longer at a lower heat.


Re: Easy, idiot proof bagel recipe?
« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2007, 05:23:23 PM »
Ok well I made them but maybe I made them a bit too big because they're crusty on the outside but still doughy inside.  ???

mmmm... that's the way i prefer them!


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Re: Easy, idiot proof bagel recipe?
« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2007, 05:44:02 PM »
Ok well I made them but maybe I made them a bit too big because they're crusty on the outside but still doughy inside.  ???

By doughy do you mean raw dough? If so, your oven may be running too hot. I have this problem nearly everwhere I've rented (or the reverse and it's not not enough).
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Re: Easy, idiot proof bagel recipe?
« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2007, 05:56:50 PM »
It's ok, now that they've cooled I cut one open and it is cooked all the way through ... when I stuck a knife in before it seemed a bit undercooked.  Still crusty on the outside, and more of a bready texture than a bagely one if you know what I mean. Still delicious though!


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Re: Easy, idiot proof bagel recipe?
« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2007, 06:00:18 PM »
It's ok, now that they've cooled I cut one open and it is cooked all the way through ... when I stuck a knife in before it seemed a bit undercooked.  Still crusty on the outside, and more of a bready texture than a bagely one if you know what I mean. Still delicious though!

They shouldn't be too bready. That may have something to do with the kneading. I think mine have turned out that way before. It's best not to cut bread straight out of the oven (not saying you did, but just in case!) - all the steam releases and affects the consistency of the crust and interior. Did you try any toppings?
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Re: Easy, idiot proof bagel recipe?
« Reply #11 on: February 06, 2007, 06:35:37 AM »
http://www.thefreshloaf.com/recipes/bagels

I saw that recipe while I was looking online for one. Have you tried it? I'm put off by the overnight bit but it might be worth it if you get great bagels out of it.


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Re: Easy, idiot proof bagel recipe?
« Reply #12 on: February 06, 2007, 03:19:45 PM »
I saw that recipe while I was looking online for one. Have you tried it? I'm put off by the overnight bit but it might be worth it if you get great bagels out of it.

I haven't tried them yet but I got the recipe from a girl who has. Her results look pretty great.

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Re: Easy, idiot proof bagel recipe?
« Reply #13 on: February 06, 2007, 03:40:47 PM »
They do look very good! I am just wondering if they turn out a bit less bready than the other ones.


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Re: Easy, idiot proof bagel recipe?
« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2007, 06:19:10 PM »
http://www.thefreshloaf.com/recipes/bagels

I am making the above recipe.  I have started the process and will post how the bagels turn out tomorrow. 


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