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Paying US taxes and making wills in the UK
« on: March 11, 2007, 04:59:30 PM »
I'm not sure if this is the best part of the forum to post this in. Move it by all means if it's not.

Just a question: I am an attorney here in California and am wanting to move to London. My mother is British and I'm a dual citizen, so I don't need a work permit since I have a UK passport.

I have approached over 100 law firms in London (many of them US based firms), but have had no luck since I have never worked for a "big" company/firm before.

Here I work for a small firm (3 employees total) and in the field of business law, estate planning, and US immigration. I also qualified as an English solicitor last year by taking a conversion course in LA of all places! I passed and now have an English law license too.

Anyway, to my point:

I'm thinking of going it solo when I get to London and setting up a US law consultancy, offering US expats in the UK (and perhaps other parts of Europe) legal advice in the areas of wills, trusts, tax, US immigration (for any of their non-US loved ones), and UK immigration (work permits etc). I've already lived in London before for 12 yrs when growing up.

So, anyone know how large the US expat population in the UK is? How many in London? What about the rest of the EU and in what countries?

Do you think US expats have a need for this sort of thing? and if so, is this need being met?

Thanks.



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Re: Paying US taxes and making wills in the UK
« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2007, 05:34:50 PM »
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Re: Paying US taxes and making wills in the UK
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Re: Paying US taxes and making wills in the UK
« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2007, 07:12:21 AM »
About 200,000 expats in London.  There's a booming need for immigration to the US, US wills, purchase of US real estate, and emigration from the US, including giving up citizenship and greencards.

Most potential clients will want you to have some dual US/UK experience.   Clauses that are common in US wills may cause problems with their UK situation, and certain legal terms have different meanings and different treatment over here.  Greencards carry a heavy potential exit tax burden, and people will be more impressed with you if you push other kinds of visas instead.  Alas, your background being solely US will not be what the expats need; there are dozens of lawyers here already who have dual experience and they will be more likely to turn to them instead.

However, there are not enough lawyers who understand enough UK law to be of service to the entire community, so if you want to gain the experience necessary to assist this market sector, come on over and get your background experience.

Try White & Case or Clifford Chance.  You may have to take a paycut.  Try applying directly from here, rather than via the US offices.  The cost of a local hire is lower for them than the cost of an expat hire; so you're more likely to get a favourable response by applying locally than by applying from the US.

Many UK law firms are happy to take on a US lawyer as an adjunct to their practice.  You would probably be a part-time consulting lawyer for them, rather than a direct employee.  If, when you get here, you don't have a job yet, go and visit dozens of UK law firms and network, network, network.  Go to every law and legal event possible and make connections.

Given all of the above, I'd think twice before you decide to set up a solo practice.

When you get here, give me a ring and I'll toss a few bones to you.
Liz Z i t z o w, EA
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Re: Paying US taxes and making wills in the UK
« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2007, 01:14:07 PM »
I'm not sure if this is the best part of the forum to post this in. Move it by all means if it's not.

Just a question: I am an attorney here in California and am wanting to move to London. My mother is British and I'm a dual citizen, so I don't need a work permit since I have a UK passport.

I have approached over 100 law firms in London (many of them US based firms), but have had no luck since I have never worked for a "big" company/firm before.

Here I work for a small firm (3 employees total) and in the field of business law, estate planning, and US immigration. I also qualified as an English solicitor last year by taking a conversion course in LA of all places! I passed and now have an English law license too.

Anyway, to my point:

I'm thinking of going it solo when I get to London and setting up a US law consultancy, offering US expats in the UK (and perhaps other parts of Europe) legal advice in the areas of wills, trusts, tax, US immigration (for any of their non-US loved ones), and UK immigration (work permits etc). I've already lived in London before for 12 yrs when growing up.

So, anyone know how large the US expat population in the UK is? How many in London? What about the rest of the EU and in what countries?

Do you think US expats have a need for this sort of thing? and if so, is this need being met?

Thanks.



I think that the answer to this is yes.  However, I would suggest that, rather than offering UK immigration, which you actually cannot at the moment without being registered with the OISC www.oisc.gov.uk or being a UK qualified solicitor/barrister, you e-mail/PM me and discuss how we can possibly work together.

Vicky


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