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Re: gift registries?
« Reply #15 on: April 14, 2007, 07:34:39 PM »
Yes, they do accept US cards online!

When you set up a wedding list with them they gift you loads of these little business cards showing their website - you handwrite your registry number on the front and you can send them out to guests. I thought that was a nice idea! (This was in 2004)...
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Re: gift registries?
« Reply #16 on: April 14, 2007, 07:39:56 PM »

I didn't think that was very common practice, at least in the US. Every bridal book, magazine and website I've come across says that it's a big etiquette no-no, and that registry info is meant to be spread by word-of-mouth, as has been mentioned in the thread.

Unfortunately, I have recieved a couple of recent invitations from my daughter's friend's that have actually had a very pretty printed note inserted with the invitation that listed all of the places they were registered at! :o  It really did set my teeth on edge.  I am glad the bridal magazines are taking a stand on this (although, I wonder how long that will last once the advertisers realize they are taking a loss on that!)  If one does feel compelled to register, yes, word of mouth would seem to be the more acceptable form of notification.  But, I can say that when my kids decided to marry, I will encourage them to accept what they are given with a smile and heartfelt Thank You note!   
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Re: gift registries?
« Reply #17 on: April 14, 2007, 09:33:29 PM »
We were both hesitant to do a registry at first, but kept getting the question (over & over & over again) - 'Where are you registered?'  Every time my MIL-to-be phoned, she was asking because the family, this, that & the other person wanted to know.  So we finally did - little gift-grubbers that we are. ;D  Guests seemed to expect the registry, and it took the hassle & guesswork out of buying pressies, I think.  I like the idea of personally selected gifts too, but modern life is what it is - what the hey?!  You go with the flow. :)

We registered with Debenhams as well - and yes, people in the US were appreciative too, because they could go online, pay with their credit card & get us a gift without the hassle of shipping something overseas.  (People who weren't able to come over for the wedding.)

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Re: gift registries?
« Reply #18 on: April 14, 2007, 09:45:05 PM »
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I'm not inclined to have a registry- I don't particularly like the idea, and we're only having immediate family at our wedding anyway so in my opinion registering anywhere would seem like gift-grubbing from people who are not actually invited to the wedding!  But I know DF's family is huge and will want to buy us stuff...so I'm torn.  Sigh.
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Re: gift registries?
« Reply #19 on: April 15, 2007, 03:06:08 AM »
a couple of recent invitations from my daughter's friend's that have actually had a very pretty printed note inserted with the invitation that listed all of the places they were registered at!

Yeah, I've heard about that too, sadly. but thankfully the books I've read (and the wedding boards I'm frequenting) feel that's pretty tacky, so hopefully it's a short-lived phenomenon.  :-\\\\ If any of the places I register at do that, I'll chuck 'em. If guests want to ask about the registry, great--that's what it's there fore; if not, we'll be glad to accept whatever they give us. :)

Andrea--my opinion is that the registry is there for folks who want a little help in the gift-giving process (I'd probably be one of them, heh) but like I've said in comments, it's not something I'd go broadcasting everywhere. If R's family wants to know what to get you, they can certainly ask, but it's not like you're forcing it on anyone by any means. Of course, you have to do what feels right for you.

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Re: gift registries?
« Reply #20 on: April 16, 2007, 09:37:06 PM »
It's a long-standing etiquette problem, I think.  If I remember right, my sister ended up doing the little card thing just because everyone kept calling my Mom to ask where they could buy stuff and they just got fed up with it.  They still ended up with lots of little interesting gifts that weren't on the registry, and the fact that everyone wanted to know kind of precludes them being insulted with gift-grubbing implications!

We're trying to figure out what, if anything, to say in our own invitations.  Right now we have a tiny flat which is already overflowing with junk, we are planning to move to the other end of the country next year, and we really want to discourage people from buying us anything.  Especially my relatives, who are already paying out the nose just to come in the first place!  I've been telling people over and over again not to buy us presents, but I'm afraid that I am going to have to register for gift cards or something.  My future MIL suggested that we put a little note in with the invitation that explains the situation and asks for cash or vouchers, if they get anything, but I don't know how to politely ask this of people.  I'm afraid that asking for cash is even tackier than asking for presents in the first place!

At least I've convinced the family not to do the embarassing down-home dollar dance.  I've always thought it was really tacky, anyway!
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Re: gift registries?
« Reply #21 on: April 16, 2007, 11:58:46 PM »
Thanks, I had heard about the Amazon.co.uk thing, and was considering it for that very reason! Were you generally happy with them?


Yep, we were generally pleased with them. We primarily registered for small appliances/electronics from there. They are definitely a lot more competitive on price for that sort of item compared to Debenham's or John Lewis, and also generally do free shipping, so we were happy to go with them for those reasons as well. Amazon's return policy was pretty straight forward, although we did have one situation where they refunded the money from a returned gift to the gift giver's credit card. A slightly sticky situation, but that was the only real problem.
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Re: gift registries?
« Reply #22 on: April 17, 2007, 02:49:25 AM »
At least I've convinced the family not to do the embarassing down-home dollar dance.  I've always thought it was really tacky, anyway!

I'm half Slovak, and the "dollar dance" or Redovy/Rjadovyj has been a tradition in my family since my great-grandmother came to the country (I was fortunate enough to know her before she passed away in the mid-90s). For us, it's much less about money, and more about being able to get face-time with each guest. I come from a very large family, and each one has done the Redovy. Guests can put in pocket change--there isn't a "cover" of $1 or anything like that, because that's not what it's about for us. My grandmother is lending me the bonnet she wore for her wedding (and if we can't find it we have a backup one from another elderly relative) and a cousin of mine is crocheting the bag for money. I honestly don't care how much money I get from it--it's an important part of my cultural heritage, and I'll certainly cherish the keepsakes family members are making for me/giving me.

I apologize if I'm coming across somewhat strongly, but it really does make me sad that the Redovy has gotten such a bad rap and has become more about money than family to a lot of people.  That's not what the meaning is behind it at all, as Baba (my great-grandmother) would remind us.


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Re: gift registries?
« Reply #23 on: April 21, 2007, 10:38:26 PM »
For us, it's much less about money, and more about being able to get face-time with each guest. I come from a very large family, and each one has done the Redovy. Guests can put in pocket change--there isn't a "cover" of $1 or anything like that, because that's not what it's about for us.

I'm sorry, I didn't mean to cause offence, or imply that the original customs or the idea behind them is tacky.  In many of the slightly redneck style, midwestern US weddings I have been to (including my cousin's wedding last year) it was done really poorly, with a big emphasis on how much money the couple can persuade their guests to give them.  At one wedding, the DJ was going on about how cheap the guests were and gave it a lot of inappropriate sexual overtones, and the whole thing was just really embarassing. 
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Re: gift registries?
« Reply #24 on: April 21, 2007, 11:09:53 PM »
We were invited to a wedding of Dales work colleague. Inside the invitation was a card from Debenhams saying heres our gift registry and our referance number to be used after such and such date.
After explaining to Dale what a gift registry was,we decided not to do it. We both think its a bit cheeky, (no offense to anyone.) we'll get em a gift, but it definatly wont be anything from Debenhams

Besides,they are a very well off couple. They can get anything they want. Dont know why they' even have a registry.


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Re: gift registries?
« Reply #25 on: April 22, 2007, 03:07:13 AM »
I'm sorry, I didn't mean to cause offence, or imply that the original customs or the idea behind them is tacky.

That's okay, and I do apologize for coming across somewhat defensively. It's just on a lot of wedding planning boards I'm a member of people come down very hard on the whole thing without knowing anything of the tradition behind it, and some things people have said have been very hurtful. A few people have said that it's not appropriate even after I've explained how it's part of my heritage and how we go about doing it, which I've definitely resented--it's like saying my family as a whole is tacky, you know? :(


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Re: gift registries?
« Reply #26 on: April 22, 2007, 09:09:58 AM »
I'm definitely a non-gift registry person when it comes to buying gifts for friends, but if I'm going to the wedding of someone I don't know very well then I always appreciate the registry. At the very least it gives me an idea of what people like or what colors they're using to decorate their home so I can have better success if going off the registry. It doesn't bother me if someone sends a card stating where they're registered. In some instances, that might be the only way you can find out! I just throw it away if I know I'm not going to use it. I actually find it tackier when the people say they don't want gifts, but only money. I understand WHY you might ask that, but let me decide if I want to give you cash or not.


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Re: gift registries?
« Reply #27 on: April 22, 2007, 04:45:50 PM »
I personally am a true-believer of gift registries! Of course, some people take it a bit too far (like my friend who has decided to register for a pedicure spa footbath and an ab machine...)

I think that as long as it is done tastefully and not over-the-top then I would much rather spend my hard-earned money on items the couple have selected and require, rather than getting something they may already have four of, or they dislike entirely. I always enjoy adding a personal touch as well - for instance, I bought my friend her registered suitcase, but then also bought her a travel book that I love - that way she got what she wanted as well as a personal touch from me.

It's better to be safe with an object bought off a registry then sorry with an object having to be sold at a yard sale!
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Re: gift registries?
« Reply #28 on: April 25, 2007, 04:12:55 AM »
It's a really difficult thing.  According to the very strictest etiquette, even the existence of a gift registry is A Really Bad Thing.  (It's correct that registries were the inventions of merchants -- some enterprising china merchants started keeping files of the china patterns of their patrons when people wished to buy and give china, and it all snowballed from there.)  However, etiquette is all about getting along in one's own society, not the society of someone else's society.  In some society, it's perfectly acceptable to put gift registry cards in the wedding invitation.  In others, it's anathema and is regarded as telling people "don't show up without a wedding gift"!  You have to know what's acceptable to your own society and in your circle of friends.

That said, if you want to be truly safe, never put registry cards in ANY invitation.  If you want, putting them in a shower invitation is widely acceptable.  The given reason that it's okay in shower invitations is because a shower is a party that's held for the sole purpose of receiving gifts (which is also why the bride and her attendants must always work VERY hard at making sure no guest is ever invited to more than one shower).  Showers, strictly speaking, are actually against all etiquette, because the idea of a party at which one must show up with a gift is considered against etiquette.

And though it's acceptable in some society, I personally loathe the idea of asking for money, especially ON the wedding invitation!

And yes, the best way to spread word of a registry is to tell your wedding party and your family where the registry is, and they should only mention it if someone asks them.

I used to work for a registry department of Bed Bath & Beyond, in fact I opened the department for the store and was the lead consultant.  It was one of the toughest balancing acts ever.  I regularly fielded questions from both brides and grooms and guests about what was "proper".  (I particularly remember one woman who was invited to the wedding of her extremely wealthy family -- she was sooo stressed because she had almost no money and she'd been invited to, count them, EIGHT showers.)  It's awful how much stress can be built into something that's supposed to be a joyous occasion.

We were often stuck in the embarrassing and awkward position of trying to let people know that putting the registry cards in their wedding invitation was against strict etiquette at the same time one tried not to insult a society who thought it was perfectly acceptable.  (Most wedding professionals feel they must warn brides and grooms because of the number of people who have put registry cards in invitations only to get hammered on by a mother or grandmother or aunt or whoever, and who usually come back angrily asking why they weren't warned it's a practice that's considered "against etiquette.")

I personally am in the "personal gift" category.  If I don't know a couple well enough to know what they might like, I generally give them a set of two Tiffany wine glasses.  (I don't know if it's the famous Tiffany blue box with the white ribbon that people remember or the quality of the wine glasses, but I'm usually fervently thanked.)  It's rare I ask about gift registries.  But they can be handy. 

It should also be remembered that technically guests have up to one year AFTER the wedding to purchase and send gifts, so if you buy things on your registry after your wedding, make sure you have it marked on the registry.  Oh yes, technically, gifts shouldn't be brought to the ceremony or receptions either, but they almost always are, so brides and grooms must be ready to have someone standing by to take, store, and transport gifts.  (Gifts are 'supposed' to be sent to the home of the bride before the wedding and to the home of the couple after the wedding.)  Oh -- and of course, no guest should EVER be made to feel like they must give a gift.  EVER.

I'm from a Chinese background.  We have our own version of the money dance; during the reception as the bride circulates among her guests, it is auspicious to hang gold in necklaces and bracelets upon her as part of her dowry: it is meant to symbolize and start off the marriage with good financial fortune.  (Very pragmatic, the Chinese, as are many different cultures!)

A registry could contain items that are suitable for the showers (a spatula!  a pot holder!  a colander!) to regular household items (towels, sheets, every day stoneware) to gifts that are meant to last a lifetime (silver items, special occasion china, crystal, art).  If you include items from a few dollars to about $75, that more than covers the range that most people will want to spend -- about $35-$65 is the most normal for wedding gifts, where shower items can cost anything from a couple of bucks to roughly $30.

Often registries allow for notes that are printed out with the registries.  We often included notes about colors and styles that the couple planned to decorate with so that guests could choose gifts not on the registries and know that the colors would work in the new home the couple would make together.  We also would include notes about other registries -- and even occasionally notes on the fact that the couple didn't want gifts!
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Re: gift registries?
« Reply #29 on: April 25, 2007, 01:28:49 PM »
Yeah, I guess in the end we are just going to err on the side of practicality.  I figure if my fMIL, who is from a middle upper class background (and from the south of England, to boot) didn't even question the idea of putting in a note about gifts, then the rest of the British family won't be too offended.  This is what we are planning to say (on a separate card):

"Mander and Fiancé do not have a wedding list as they are not setting up home immediately.

If you would like to mark the day for them, gift vouchers / gift cards, particularly for John Lewis or Argos, would be much appreciated."

Our problems are: 1) we have been running our own households for years and have all the stuff we need, 2) our flat is really small and already cluttered with stuff, and 3) we want to move in a few months and would prefer to have fewer things to deal with, and 4) whatever we get, we have to haul across the country on the train. 

So I guess the message that we really want to convey is that if people want to get us something, it would be best to send us gift cards.  In an ideal world, people wouldn't get us any gits at all--they would just come to the wedding and have a good time.  It's meant to be a celebration, right?

Bleah. All this wedding nonsense is giving me a headache...
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