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Re: PETS Program
« Reply #60 on: January 22, 2004, 04:30:11 PM »
My Vet called the USDA and they faxed him one.  The PETS Entry or Re-entry Certificate for pet cats and dogs must be issued by an APHIS accredited veterinarian who will obtain it from the USDA office in his/her state. Most Vets fall under this category and will know if they are.  So that's your next step.  Get the vet to fill out the paperwork and get it to the USDA office.

Yours is in, of all places, Albany!!! ;D

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So I think that's the best bet.  Get your butt in gear just in case....you never know!  ;D   The way we both are....
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Re: PETS Program
« Reply #61 on: January 22, 2004, 10:53:57 PM »
By the way..USDA lady guru peep called me today...seems they forgot they needed the following with the certificate:

1. Signed copy of the Rabies Certificate (with name printed underneath)
2. Copies of the FAVN titer KSU results.

So don't forget those!
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Re: PETS Program
« Reply #62 on: January 29, 2004, 04:13:30 PM »
Animal update..(insert funny news do do do noises here)

I got my certificates!!!  Yes they are cheesy copies but with original vet and USDA signatures on them.  They stamped both the PETS certificate and Rabies Certification with and approved notary public type imprint and singed it.  So...as of March 28th the animals are ready to go!

YEAH!!

Now if only we were. :-/
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Re: PETS Program
« Reply #63 on: February 20, 2004, 06:04:18 AM »
Two questions -

1.  Will airlines ship a pet over after the 6 months if we kept our cat at relatives house?

2.  Do simliar restrictions apply for UK to US when we return, if we get a pet while we are there?


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Re: PETS Program
« Reply #64 on: February 20, 2004, 03:18:57 PM »
Two answers:  ;D
1. Yes as an unaccompanied animal.

2. No, you just need to keep their shots current and keep that record with you.

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Re: PETS Program
« Reply #65 on: February 26, 2004, 04:07:51 PM »
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 On the 6 month thing though...... it probably was too long but Hawaii's quarantine period is also 6 months so maybe there is actually a reason.....
susan


There actually is a reason. The antibodies for rabies don't show up for a very long time. The disease can hide in the body for up to 6 months. There has to be time to monitor the blood for the appearance of anti-bodies after a vaccination, to be sure there isn't any active disease. It really does make sense.


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Re: PETS Program
« Reply #66 on: March 04, 2004, 07:12:49 PM »
Now how did he manage to do that?  Dork.  Sorry to hear that KC!   :-/
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Re: PETS Program
« Reply #67 on: March 04, 2004, 11:31:35 PM »
I was just thinking.   Can they use the same blood test or did he have to redraw the blood?  Because they PETS certificate is good from the date the blood is drawn.

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Re: PETS Program
« Reply #68 on: March 06, 2004, 07:17:11 AM »
I was wondering how everyone's cats survived the trip? I'm worried about putting mine through it. It seems awfully stressful...also I noticed some can ride in the cabin and some in cargo? How is that determined?


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Re: PETS Program
« Reply #69 on: March 07, 2004, 03:01:09 AM »
Cargo V. Cabin all depends on the airline. For instance, BA wont let pets in the cabin but Delta will. Most airlines will allow pet travel in the pressurised (sp?) cargo hold however only a select few will allow international travel in the cabin: These airlines include, as previously mentioned, Delta, Continental, KLM, Northwest, and Canada Air. There are others but you should check direct with the airline.

Under both circumstances a fee is charges as the pet is considered extra baggage. For the cargo hold there is generally a standard pet carriage charge as well as an extra baggage charge. For the cabin it's (as far as Im aware, for Delta at least) a standard pet carriage charge. About $75 per pet.

Only two pets are allowed in the cabin per flight so you should book your pets in when you make your reservations. Pets traveling in the cabin must fit in a carrier underneath the seat. You can get carrier specifications from the airlines but the general rules are that the animal must be able to fit comfortably inside the carrier and be able to stand and turn around while inside it. I'm travling with two cats in cabin in the next couple of months and I have chosen Sherpa brand bags which are readily avalible in US pet shops like PetSmart. They are approved on certain airlines for cabin travel only. You may not use sherpa or any soft sided carriers for cargo travel.

Cargo travel must take place in a solid sided carrier that does not run the risk of popping open or breaking during flight. Normal plastic carriers are not generally reccomended. You can have wooden crates made for your pet for cargo travel. Carriers should not have wheels or the wheels should be taken off prior to releasing the carrier.

Some flights will not allow cargo travel for health reasons - for instance if youre flying in the dead of summer to a hot location your pet may not be able to fly on day flights as the pet can sometimes be kept waiting on the tarmac in preperation of off-loading.

In both cases pets that show any signs of being sedated will not be allowed to fly.

So basically you choose whichever suits your circumstances best. Large animals cant fly in cabin and must go via cargo. Small pets can travel either way. As I said earlier, I have two cats that I'll be taking in the cabin with me. I've chosen this route because I have nervous cats, one of whom is quite old. I would like to keep a close eye on them in flight. Its also to aid in peace of mind. I would be worried for 10 hours straight if they were ok in the cargo hold because thats the kind of person I am. Ive heard lots of good stories about people taking their pets by cargo but I myself would rather have my "kids" close.

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Re: PETS Program
« Reply #70 on: March 07, 2004, 08:44:45 AM »
Thank you! Please let me know how the flight goes. My cats are 13 and would wail the whole flight. I don't think I could bear to have them in cargo, though.

I'm deciding if it's more humane to find a good home(hopefully with family) here :( or put them through the trip.
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Re: PETS Program
« Reply #71 on: March 07, 2004, 07:04:26 PM »
To my knowledge for the PETS program your cat would have to travel in the Cargo hold for the trip to the UK.  The carriers that are required for PETS are solid and have to meet a certain specification. Our cat is 15 and is going with us.  The trip is stressful, but as a person who has made several transatlanic trips with animals.... they are pretty flexible creatures.  

Your vet can recommend drugs or even natural remedies for the trip if you have a high anxiety pet.    
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Re: PETS Program
« Reply #72 on: March 07, 2004, 07:16:00 PM »
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To my knowledge for the PETS program your cat would have to travel in the Cargo hold for the trip to the UK.



So there is no option anymore for traveling in the cabin? :(

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 The carriers that are required for PETS are solid and have to meet a certain specification. Our cat is 15 and is going with us.  The trip is stressful, but as a person who has made several transatlanic trips with animals.... they are pretty flexible creatures.


Really??? 

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Your vet can recommend drugs or even natural remedies for the trip if you have a high anxiety pet.    



But someone said earlier that there can't be signs of sedation...argh! I'm gonna have to research this on the website..I'm so confused!
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Re: PETS Program
« Reply #73 on: March 07, 2004, 07:25:19 PM »
That's probably a good idea.  Here's what I yanked from DEFRA.
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Re: PETS Program
« Reply #74 on: March 07, 2004, 07:29:15 PM »
RE CARGO ISSUE

Q13. Will animals have to travel as cargo?
A13. We know that some internal flights within the USA and Canada allow animals to travel as excess baggage (i.e. in the cabin). Approved air routes (see above) generally cover only the last leg of the journey from mainland USA or Canada to the UK and for this part of the journey the animals must travel as cargo in the hold. This is usually how airlines prefer to transport animals on long haul flights and it also should mean a smooth and swift delivery of the animal to the Animal Reception Centre on arrival at Heathrow or Gatwick airports.

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