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Big Box of Water in the Attic!!
« on: May 30, 2007, 02:37:47 PM »
Okay - first off, I'm not exactly that handy around American homes, but living in my newfound UK home is bewildering to me.  I've figured out the fuses and the boiler (although I took a couple of cold showers before I got that one ironed out), but now I've come across something that is totally befuddling.

I've got a little two-story house - downstairs are the boiler controls, and upstairs in one of the closets is the hot water container (I don't know what it's called here, I just know what it is).  However, beyond that, the other night I heard a dripping noise coming from the attic.  So, I open up the attic door, climb up and discover a large box of water sitting in the attic.  It's obviously somehow linked in to the water system, as it has a similar type setup as the back of a toilet - the floater that lifts as the water level rises and tells the water to stop running thing.

What is this thing and what is it doing?!?


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Re: Big Box of Water in the Attic!!
« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2007, 03:24:12 PM »
Appearantly according to my husband he believes it is called the header tank. In lay man's terms it fills the other tank to keep the pressure flowing. It is always located higher than the other tank. Here is a picture of the system:

http://www.plumbingpages.com/featurepages/HWopenvented.cfm


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Re: Big Box of Water in the Attic!!
« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2007, 03:29:15 PM »
Oh Paul!!!!??
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Re: Big Box of Water in the Attic!!
« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2007, 07:25:44 PM »
Oh Paul?????!!!
LOL as I typed my reply I thought.....Paul will be giving a much  more in depth response before long :-)


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Re: Big Box of Water in the Attic!!
« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2007, 07:27:29 PM »
The closet is called the Hot Press & it's where you dry your laundry when it's raining.


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Re: Big Box of Water in the Attic!!
« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2007, 08:01:32 PM »
These things aren't covered?! What if something, like a mouse, crawls in there and dies?!  :o


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Re: Big Box of Water in the Attic!!
« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2007, 08:07:42 PM »
The closet is called the Hot Press & it's where you dry your laundry when it's raining.

We call it an airing cupboard!

These things aren't covered?! What if something, like a mouse, crawls in there and dies?!  :o

I think Paul has mentioned this elsewhere. I'd look it up, but am too lazy to do so right now!!
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Re: Big Box of Water in the Attic!!
« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2007, 08:43:20 PM »
We call it an airing cupboard!

I've learned from DH family it's called an airing cupboard too!
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Re: Big Box of Water in the Attic!!
« Reply #8 on: May 31, 2007, 10:32:47 AM »
http://talk.uk-yankee.com/index.php?topic=14213.0

= Paul's amazing description of all things plumbing.  On the third page there's even a full diagram of how it all works.
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Re: Big Box of Water in the Attic!!
« Reply #9 on: May 31, 2007, 11:09:11 AM »
I reckon at some point we seriously need to have a Paul appreciation thread. He is definately one of UKY's treasures.


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Re: Big Box of Water in the Attic!!
« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2007, 01:35:28 PM »
Aw shucks, it's nice to be appreciated!   Now, if I can still fit my head through the door......  ;)

On airing cupboard vs. hot press, the former is what most people in England probably call it, and certainly the name I grew up using.  Hot press is the Irish terminology, although it might be used regionally in parts of Britain too. 

I think the answer to the "big box of water" has been covered pretty well with the links to the plumbing thread, but scanning quickly through that I notice that I did omit one extra detail. 

In some houses you'll actually find two header tanks in the attic, one large and one much smaller.  The larger cistern is the one shown in my diagram which feeds the hot-water system below and -- in many cases -- also feeds all the cold faucets around the house except the kitchen.  The smaller cistern is the header tank for the heating system and keeps the water level topped up in the closed circuit which takes heat from the boiler to the radiators and/or hot-water cylinder.  The float on the ball-valve in this cistern is generally set so that it is usually only about half full, which allows room for expansion when the water in that closed-loop gets hot.

As for the open cisterns, they do indeed collect all manner of dust, dirt, dead spiders, and so on.  I've even seen dead birds in them before.  I'm sure that a sample of water from many would keep a biologist busy with his microscope trying to identify every little wiggly thing for weeks! 

Covers are available for the newer plastic cisterns, or even a makeshift plywood sheet fixed over would do much to keep the debris out.  You need to allow for the expansion pipe though (see the diagram).
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