The murder house

Wow Expat! What a scary story....I think if I had been her, I probably would have had a heart attack. I am one of those that is truly afraid of ghosts. 

But anyway I was just curious whether or not the estate agents are aware of the history of that house and if so do they have to disclose that information to any prospective buyers?

The rules have become stricter about disclosing any ongoing disputes, such as disagreements with neighbors over boundaries, rights of way through the property, and so on, but there's nothing about disclosure of past murders and similar grizzly activities in a house.   

Some addresses still strike a chord in Britain today, decades after the murder(s) and even though the house is no longer in existence.  10 Rillington Place (Ladbroke Grove, London) springs to mind.

10 Rillington Place (Ladbroke Grove, London) springs to mind.

What happened there?

What happened there?

The short version:
http://www.stephen-stratford.co.uk/evans_christie.htm

The detailed story:
http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/history/christie/index_1.html

The short version:
http://www.stephen-stratford.co.uk/evans_christie.htm

The detailed story:
http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/history/christie/index_1.html

 

Wow! Yeah I don't think I'd want to live there!!

I don't think I'd want to live there!!

Don't worry, you can't!   The place was torn down, sometime in the 1970s I think.

This case earned such notoriety in Britain that the story was turned into a movie about 20 years later, using "10 Rillington Place" as the actual title.

DH says they tore down the house where Fred & Rosemary West buried the bodies of their victims as well, on Cromwell Street in Gloucester, and turned it into footpath. Apparently people didn't want to walk along the footpath for quite some time as they felt it was disrespectful.

I think that sometimes when it's a notorious murder or serial murders, it ends up getting knocked
down simply because the morbid tourists flock to it otherwise.

Wow. Yeah I doubt people would want to live in places like those, so it makes sense to kind of try to "erase" the memory.

I wouldn't want to be told if murders had occurred in the house I was looking in. I think I would be creeped out if I had been told, but if I never knew or if it had been from years before then I really wouldn't care.

I would if there was a ghost there though, I guess it depends on the feeling I would get from the house.

I think it might be a good investment as a buy-to-let.

I think there are people who would be willing to spend a considerable amount of money for the chance to say they spent a holiday in a house where people had been murdered.

I, too, am a sceptic.  A lady I work with has a great story though about the first house she bought with her first husband-to-be.  They were renovating it before moving in, and twice when she was there alone working in the toilet/bathroom -- she glanced up to the mirror and saw a strange man in a flat cap looking back at her.  Each time, she immediately fled away from the house.

Worried about telling her fiance - because he'd think she was a loony, she continued to fret over moving into the house, until one night she overheard her fiance having a quiet conversation with someone in the local pub while they were out for the night.  He was telling the other person - 'Don't tell my (fiancee') X, but our house is haunted.'

Upon hearing it, she confronted him to find he'd also been seeing similar occurences.  They arranged to have a COE priest bless the house before they moved in, and didn't have any further trouble.  The local story was that an old Yorkshire geezer owned & lived in the house for a long time, dying there, and it sat vacant for awhile until they set out to buy it.

You might be able to determine if someone died violently in a house you were interested in by researching public records.

It would cost, but some might find it worth it.

I'm on the fence with it all.

It doesn't bother some folks and it does other.

I read an article about this.  In one instance, the couple had already closed on the deal and were just waiting to move in.  They were out to dinner with another couple and asked the taxi to swing by their 'new' place so the other couple could see it.  When they did, they ran into police cordons.  Turns out the former owner, still occupying the home, had been burglarised and bludgeoned to death with a hammer.

But they didn't let that stop them at all, because they loved the house as much as he had.  They'd wanted to buy it years before, but were unable to because it had been out of their price range.  Then it came back on the market and they fell in love with it even more.  The owner was wanting to downsize, although he loved the home.

The man was a Polish Catholic and the new owners Jewish, so they asked a priest to bless the place and moved in.

The lady put her business office in the front room where he was killed, and said she feels nothing but warmth in there AND business has taken off really well since the move.

So it would depend, I think.

A lady I work with has a great story though about the first house she bought with her first husband-to-be.  They were renovating it before moving in, and twice when she was there alone working in the toilet/bathroom -- she glanced up to the mirror and saw a strange man in a flat cap looking back at her. 

My mom told of an experience she had back in the early 1950s.  While home alone one day she thought she heard somebody playing the piano downstairs, went down to investigate, and -- for a brief moment -- saw a gentleman dressed in Victorian clothes sitting at her piano.  She described the clothes and the man's general appearance to an older neighbor who had lived in the street for many years, and it matched perfectly the description of the man who used to live in that house some 50 years earlier.

Well I try not to talk about this stuff as it's what I 'do' but when I was involved in a paranormal TV programme a few years ago we filmed for four days in a 'haunted' Scottish castle in Inverness. At that time I that all that paranormal stuff was a bunch of hooey. But the things I saw and heard would scare the crap out of anyone. I spent a good portion of those four days crying and clinging on to other people.
One episode was even caught on camera. I was being interviewed in the gameroom of the castle. It was myself, the producer, a camera man and a sound man. In the middle of my interview we heard very clearly light tapping on a piano. They had to stop the interview because the piano interfered. It wasn't a tune or anyting just a few ding, ding, dings. The camera man played it back over and over and over and it was very clearly a piano but there wasn't anyone else in the room.
While we were there we have also seen shadows heard bangs and giggling.
Since developing my clairvoyance I have had the strangest experiences. A few even with people on here.
I don't want to ever change peoples' beliefs but in my honest opinion there IS something else beyond this world.

I really get freaked out with this kind of stuff. I just came in from gardening (very hot) and just reading Paul's and Pebbles comments....I actually got a cool chill. 

Needless to say, I would go running for the hills if I ever had an experience like that.

Like Pebbles, I do believe there is something else out there.