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Lowering ceiling light?
« on: June 09, 2007, 05:26:45 PM »
The house we're renting is lit by bare light bulbs dangling from the ceiling in every room--truly ghastly. I'm slowly working on getting some shades up, and I found one today that's perfect for the dining room. Unfortunately it looks ridiculous dangling a foot from the ceiling! I'm trying to figure out if there's any way to lower it. Is there something like an extension cord for light sockets? I'm thinking of something that would plug into the existing socket, with a longer cord and another socket on the end. If there isn't such a thing (most likely the case!) are there any straightforward and inexpensive ways to lower the light that wouldn't make my landlady hate me, or am I stuck with having the light at a weird height?


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Re: Lowering ceiling light?
« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2007, 09:41:18 AM »
I've never seen a ready made extension, although it would be possible to make one with a bulb holder and a BC plug (although the latter are quite hard to find in the stores these days).

If it's a regular pendant fitting though, it's an easy job to simply replace the cord with a longer one, which would be a much better and neater solution anyway.  Does the basic fitting hanging from the ceiling look something like this?



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Re: Lowering ceiling light?
« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2007, 10:15:35 AM »
Yes, exactly like that. How long do they come? I was looking through B&Q's website yesterday, and the longest I found was 230 mm--I need something more like a meter.


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Re: Lowering ceiling light?
« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2007, 11:53:05 AM »
You'll have a hard time finding ready made pendants in that length.  You don't want to replace the whole assembly anyway, besides which changing the ceiling portion is likely to involve reconnecting quite a number of wires inside (unless you happen to have the type where the pendant simply unplugs, but they're not all that common so I'll assume you have the regular type).

Changing just the cord itself is not at all difficult and just involves two wires at each end.  All you need to buy from B&Q or some other suitable store is whatever length you require of PVC-insulated, 2-core 0.75mm flex.  They should know what that means.

Step-by-step replacement:

1.  Safety first: Turn off the juice to the house at the main switch.   Turning off just the light itself at the wall can still leave live wires inside the ceiling box, so although I'll change cords like that myself I'm not going to recommend that you do so.  Shut off everything at the main to be sure.

2.  Unscrew the cover from the ceiling box.  This is often the hardest part if it's been painted over a dozen times since it was installed.  You may have to run a Stanley knife around the upper edge to clear the paint.

3.  With the box opened, you'll see something like this:



Yours might be arranged slightly differently inside, but most modern fittings are similar.  You may have multiple cables coming in from above the ceiling as well, but that doesn't affect what you're doing.

4.  Unhook the wires from the pendant cord and disconnect them from the terminals.  Make a note of which wire went where.  Now you can come down to ground level to make things easier.

5.  Unscrew the back cover of the actual lampholder.  You'll see two little terminals inside where the cord connects, like this:



6.  Disconnect the cord from the holder, then strip the end of your new cord to the right length to fit. 

7.  Connect the new cord to the holder, making sure that the copper is held snugly by the terminal screws (but not too tight!), and hooking the wires back round the little tabs as support, as in my picture above.  Some newer lampholders don't have these lugs but instead use a little plastic disk which goes on before the cover.   On a regular bayonet lampholder it doesn't matter which way round the two wires go.  Replace the rear cover when done. 

8.  Cut the cord to length, then strip the other end to fit the ceiling box.  Reconnect the two wires matching colors with those you removed earlier, make sure that you hook the wires around the little lugs for support, then screw the cover back on.  (You did thread it over the cord before you connected it, didn't you?  ;D ). 

9.  Replace the bulb, turn the power back on at the main switch.  You're done!
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Re: Lowering ceiling light?
« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2007, 01:26:22 PM »
Wow, thanks for the detailed instructions! That sounds like exactly what I need. I have wired plugs to hard-wired light fixtures before, and this looks pretty similar. Actually, it looks  easier--no wire nuts or electrical tape involved. I may just trot over to B&Q this afternoon. Thanks again! I'll let you know how it comes out.


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Re: Lowering ceiling light?
« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2007, 01:34:08 PM »
If you've wired a plug or a lampholder successfully before, you should have no problems with this little project.   :)
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Re: Lowering ceiling light?
« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2007, 05:11:51 PM »
Success! The light comes on and I didn't electrocute myself (there's a reason I'm a theoretical physicist...)!!!  I think the hardest bit was finding the screwdriver. Here's the finished product:
http://share.shutterfly.com/action/welcome?sid=8EaMXLdy2bMLs

The furniture is hopeless and the walls need paint desperately (begging the landlady to let us paint is the next project), but I have a funky "chandelier" for less than £20. I'm a happy camper. Thanks again, Paul, your directions were spot on.


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Re: Lowering ceiling light?
« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2007, 05:31:47 PM »
I didn't electrocute myself

That's generally a good sign!  [smiley=laugh4.gif]

I can't get your link to work to see the finished product, but glad you're sorted out.   
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Re: Lowering ceiling light?
« Reply #8 on: June 11, 2007, 09:56:29 AM »
Hmm, I don't know why the link isn't working--it works for me both at home and at work. Sorry about that!


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Re: Lowering ceiling light?
« Reply #9 on: June 11, 2007, 10:11:00 AM »
Got it now thanks.   The shutterfly site wouldn't proceed until I allowed it to set a cookie. 

Looks good!   :)
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Re: Lowering ceiling light?
« Reply #10 on: June 11, 2007, 12:17:13 PM »
Thanks!  :D Glad you got it to work.


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