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Re: Washer / Dryer?
« Reply #15 on: August 17, 2007, 12:21:15 AM »
I've always hated hanging clothes to dry because they get crusty and stiff! Looks like that will take some getting used to ;)

So far, majority of the flats I have seen online come with an under the counter washer so that's a plus. I just got used to having my own washer and dryer here in the states. I would hate to have to go back to the laundry mat again. ugh.

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Re: Washer / Dryer?
« Reply #16 on: August 17, 2007, 12:22:42 AM »
Buying a dryer won't be an option as I will be renting a flat to begin with.

We rent, and we have a dryer.  It's a condenser model (as opposed to a vented model - which means it doesn't need an vent leading to the outside in order to operate) and we keep in the dining room, next to the fridge (the only white goods in the kitchen are the stove and the washer).  It cost £200 and has been SOOOOO worth it!   :)


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Re: Washer / Dryer?
« Reply #17 on: August 17, 2007, 12:49:27 AM »
We rent, and we have a dryer.  It's a condenser model (as opposed to a vented model - which means it doesn't need an vent leading to the outside in order to operate) and we keep in the dining room, next to the fridge (the only white goods in the kitchen are the stove and the washer).  It cost £200 and has been SOOOOO worth it!   :)

That sounds amazing! got a link to something similar to the one you own? How much does it effect your electricity bill?

*edit*  anything like these? Looks like they sell the condenser separate and it works with any of these dryers? [nofollow]
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Re: Washer / Dryer?
« Reply #18 on: August 17, 2007, 06:16:18 AM »
That sounds amazing! got a link to something similar to the one you own? How much does it effect your electricity bill?

*edit*  anything like these? Looks like they sell the condenser separate and it works with any of these dryers?

This is the one we've got: 

http://www.sainsburyskitchenappliances.co.uk/Product_Information.aspx?ProductID=5167&gclid=CIiC9Ynk-40CFR20EAoda188Ng

except we got ours from Curry's.

You just empty the condenser compartment (a pull-out tray in the top left corner) into the sink every couple of loads and that's it.  Easy-peasy. 

I actually don't know what it does to our electricity bill (we get ours quarterly, and haven't gotten one in a while) but it can't be too bad, as DH tends to squawk when things get expensive. ;)


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Re: Washer / Dryer?
« Reply #19 on: August 17, 2007, 06:52:21 AM »
Heres another vote for condensor dryers.. I LOVE mine... My washing machine is in my kitchen.. My dryer is in my bedroom... I have a huge bedroom. It is sooo worth the investment to be able to dry clothes no matter what the weather may be like. You just have to empty the water catcher bit every couple loads .. If you don't mine just stops and has a light that comes on to remind you that the water needs emptying. Lint collecter i empty every load.
Best thing about condensor dryers is that they can be put ANYWHERE you have a socket. As long as there is a bit of space behind and around the machine for air circulation. Its also great in winter as it warms up the room lolol. During better weather i have the window open anyways so its not a issue.
Thats my two pence on the issue. lol


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Re: Washer / Dryer?
« Reply #20 on: August 17, 2007, 07:42:34 AM »
We rent, and we have a dryer.  It's a condenser model (as opposed to a vented model - which means it doesn't need an vent leading to the outside in order to operate) and we keep in the dining room, next to the fridge (the only white goods in the kitchen are the stove and the washer).  It cost £200 and has been SOOOOO worth it!   :)

Ditto, except ours is in the garage.


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Re: Washer / Dryer?
« Reply #21 on: August 17, 2007, 08:26:32 AM »
I've never not had a dryer in a rented flat and i've lived in loads.  Often they will be condensers and they work pretty well.


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Re: Washer / Dryer?
« Reply #22 on: August 17, 2007, 08:36:56 AM »
We hang our laundry to dry on a drying rack, on an outside clothesline, and also during cool weather - draped over the radiators.  I didn't like it at first but I got used to it & now I actually prefer it (not having a dryer).  It's better for the environment & your electricity bill.
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Re: Washer / Dryer?
« Reply #23 on: August 17, 2007, 11:17:39 AM »
I had a curling iron that didn't make it    ;D
Melted clear off the plastic handle.

It would.  On a simple heating element doubling the voltage also results (more or less) in the current doubling as well.   Since power varies with the square of the current, that curling iron was trying to give off four times as much heat as it was designed for!   :o

But to the technical points on washer/dryer electrical hookups.....

There is the usual American 120 vs. British 240 volts issue on washers.   A step-down transformer could be used to get around that, but there is still the frequency difference, 50Hz in the U.K. vs. 60Hz in the U.S.A.   Transformers alter voltage, but not frequency.   

While this isn't generally a problem for the types of smaller motors found in mixers, blenders, etc., the difference becomes much more significant on the type and size of motors found in larger appliances like washers and dryers, so the motor would almost certainly be running less efficiently and would quite probably run hotter than usual, not to mention running slow.   Some programmers also use a small synchronous motor to operate the timing cycles, and that would also run at 80% of normal speed, thus extending all the cycle times.

Dryers have all the same problems with the motor/timer over the frequency difference, plus some extra hookup difficulties.   A lot of people don't realize that American homes have both 120 and 240 volts available, but the higher voltage is used only for heavier appliances such as heating, air-conditioning, electric ranges, etc.   

Your American dryer plug might have either three or four prongs depending upon when and how it was installed, but both types provide 120 and 240V for the dryer.  240V is used for the high power to the actual heating elements while the 120V runs the lights, motor, timer, and so on.   To run this on a British supply which is straight 240V you'd need to fit a transformer to derive the 120V for the controls.  But you'd still have the frequency problem to contend with.

In short, unless you have a lot of time, money, and/or expertise to convert everything, forget it.  There are "American style" washers and dryers available here which are designed for 240V 50Hz if you want the larger capacity and have the space.

Yeah, I know, Paul went off on a long technical ramble again to come to such a simple bottom line, but I like to be reasonably thorough with my explanations!    :)

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Re: Washer / Dryer?
« Reply #24 on: August 17, 2007, 12:10:23 PM »
I had my kitchen done late last year and I have an integrated washer and an integrated dryer under the counters in the kitchen...I could not, would not live without a tumble dryer. Never in a million years.


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Re: Washer / Dryer?
« Reply #25 on: August 17, 2007, 12:24:35 PM »
I've always hated hanging clothes to dry because they get crusty and stiff! Looks like that will take some getting used to ;)

So far, majority of the flats I have seen online come with an under the counter washer so that's a plus. I just got used to having my own washer and dryer here in the states. I would hate to have to go back to the laundry mat again. ugh.

Thanks all.

Almost all apartments have a washer in them here - I lived in New York City for 6 years, so it was a total luxury to me!  A dryer is another story.  We have outside space, so I really don't have a problem hanging stuff out to dry unless it's rainy like it's been here all summer!  But I usually get a few loads done on a sunny day and they dry really quickly - even in winter.  For especially damp days, I hang stuff on the radiators.  You kind of get used washing just enough clothes that you have room to hang out!

We had a washer/dryer combo in one place we lived and I would always warn against them if you have space for separate units.  You can never dry as much as you've washed which means you need to do tiny loads!


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Re: Washer / Dryer?
« Reply #26 on: August 17, 2007, 12:28:16 PM »
I had my kitchen done late last year and I have an integrated washer and an integrated dryer under the counters in the kitchen...I could not, would not live without a tumble dryer. Never in a million years.

I am the same way I absolutely love having a dryer granted it is only used to dry the towels, socks & underwear, Dh's lounge bottoms & my pj's, sheets, & duvet covers. I cant stand crunchy towels & if I don't have to iron I don't neither does Dh.  


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Re: Washer / Dryer?
« Reply #27 on: August 17, 2007, 01:28:39 PM »
My parents in the U.S. haven't had a working dryer in years, they hang everything up in the basement or outside if it is nice.  I am a little upset I can't do that here.  I hang outside but with no radiators nothing ever dries.  Ho-hum.  I hate the bills and the fact we have a combo washer/dryer so you can't start a 2nd load until the first one is dry.

Combo's suck btw, they take forever to dry the clothes. 


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Re: Washer / Dryer?
« Reply #28 on: August 17, 2007, 05:53:24 PM »
Almost all apartments have a washer in them here - I lived in New York City for 6 years, so it was a total luxury to me! 

I definitely agree with this!

After years of hauling my stuff either to the laundromat or my Mom's house in New Jersey, a washing machine is definitely a step in the right direction.


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Re: Washer / Dryer?
« Reply #29 on: August 17, 2007, 06:27:32 PM »
Hey sounds like I've got a solution to my problem before it was ever a problem :) I'll be purchasing a condenser dryer almost immediately after I move.

Thanks again for all the helpful comments. This board is great.  :P


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