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Re: New Laptop, what to get?
« Reply #15 on: October 17, 2007, 12:30:58 PM »
I'm pretty firmly in the Mac camp on this one. I have an older G3 laptop that has been hauled around for going on 5 years that still runs like a champ. I've never once had to have it serviced. Work just let me get a newer desktop and I got one of the new imacs, like the ones shown here: http://store.apple.com/Apple/WebObjects/ukstore.woa/wa/RSLID?nnmm=browse&mco=7B723661&node=home/shop_mac/family/imac

I love it. I got the 20" screen and it's huge. Perfect for some of the composition and photo design work I do. I work in graphic design and print production and have always felt Macs to be a more "creative" use computer, but anymore you can get most pc programs for them and like others have said you can run virtual pc and have both mac and pc at your disposal.

We do have pc's in our office, but none of them are running vista. We've had several clients have major issues with it. Not sure why, but my pc guy told us not to install it and to try and avoid getting a unit with it.  I will second the security issues with mac are pretty slim. I've never run a virus protection on my mac and have surfed the web/email for years. I've only once gotten a virus. There are just so few of them floating around out there written for mac it pretty much takes that worry away.

I know macs are more expensive, but hubby was a die-hard pc man until he started using my mac. He doesn't want to go back.


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Re: New Laptop, what to get?
« Reply #16 on: October 17, 2007, 12:33:20 PM »
hubby was a die-hard pc man until he started using my mac. He doesn't want to go back.

I'm the opposite! I was a die-hard Mac girl until I tried a PC! I'll never go back!  ;D
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Re: New Laptop, what to get?
« Reply #17 on: October 17, 2007, 01:44:02 PM »
Work just let me get a newer desktop and I got one of the new imacs, like the ones shown here: http://store.apple.com/Apple/WebObjects/ukstore.woa/wa/RSLID?nnmm=browse&mco=7B723661&node=home/shop_mac/family/imac

I love it. I got the 20" screen and it's huge. Perfect for some of the composition and photo design work I do. I work in graphic design and print production and have always felt Macs to be a more "creative" use computer, but anymore you can get most pc programs for them and like others have said you can run virtual pc and have both mac and pc at your disposal.

I hate you!  :P  I am sooooo lusting after the new iMac.  <sigh>
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Re: New Laptop, what to get?
« Reply #18 on: October 17, 2007, 01:50:05 PM »
The annoying thing is that I know Macs have their advantages over PCs and I have used a Mac 4-8 hours a day for the past year at uni, but I just can't imagine ever actually owning one, lol!!

p.p.s.  My other word is 'why a laptop?'  If you travel a great deal and need to be online, then I can understand it in that situation, but by and large laptops are lower powered, more expensive, and far more likely to break than their desktop cousins.  Depends on your needs. 

I chose a laptop because I will need one for travelling over the next few years. I have a perfectly good Dell PC at home with no problems - it's only a year old - but I'm moving to the US in a couple of months and don't want to try to haul a desktop 5,000 miles away and hope it will work over there. A laptop is just much easier for me as I will probably be travelling around the US to conferences and things during the next 4 years and will be flying home to the UK with it at least once a year - I am aware of the problems/costs associated with laptops and actually never planned on owning one before, but unfortunately, I'm going to need it :(.


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Re: New Laptop, what to get?
« Reply #19 on: October 17, 2007, 01:55:33 PM »
Hi,

Good advice and experiences so far - no need to go into that so much, but like anything there's much more than meet's the eye.

From experience within the industry as well as personal home computing and business requirements and needs -it's the 'ongoing' aspects you may want to spend some time looking into.

It's all fine saying 'depends what you want it for' for this moment in time, but will it be suitable if your needs change in the future? - invariably, most 'home' users won't need massive new application needs over time but the usual requirement for buying a PC applies here - buy the best system you can afford to ensure some future expansion capability.

The new MAC operating system comes out in just over a week's time - it too, has been delayed for launch since Apple wanted to get the iphone out first, and initial reports I've seen about what it'll do are encouraging - I really like the fact the Apple OS is one for all, all the features and a home licence for upto 3 or 5 (i cant remember) is around £130. That blows Vista right out of the water - perfect for the future when you may need a second machine.

In another thread, I've just purchased my 4th Dell. I still have my first one from 1998 looking like it exploded, wires and circuit boards cracks dents and all - and it still works! my last dell im selling off. I've tried lots of other machines, IBM/Lenovo's, Sony, HP, Compaq's etc and whilst some of those have really excellent certain machines, I still benchmark them for price against Dell's. I do have another compaq latop here that bruised and battle damaged and still runs strong - the key here is to try out machines for feel and use - I hate Toshiba's with their tiny little spacebar and usually normal height enter key for instance.

Technically, laptops nowadays are MUCH closer to top end desktop specs and performance is often better - admittedly, to get that you need to look at the higher end of price ranges.

To help you along, nip into WHSmith's and pickup a couple PC magazines with reviews on machines and Apple magazines with reviews and compare. Look at expamples of use that probably wont ever need - it'll indicate who does what best and help narrow your choice.

Also, it is possible to get Vista, and then effectively 'downgrade' to XP - but it gets a litle fiddly for non techy types (for instance it's much easier to have XP on first and then install Vista on a separate partition than the other way round) there are solutions, my new laptop I just simply purchased another second hand hard drive, bought a spare carrier specifically for it, and now I just remove it and leave it at my business address overnight - it has XP on it. When I get home, I slot in the original hard drive the laptop came with and that has Vista ultimate on it.

Seems all confusing but I suggest you read up, evaluate what you'd like want, narrow down hardware selections based on yorur criteria and then purchase.

if you know exactly what you want, and it does turn out to be a Dell and a laptop, thenI just saved about £900 off this laptop 4 weeks ago when I bought it. On the Dell site it came to around £2430 ish (Dell XPS 1710) and I picked it up for £1525 delivered. It's an ebay power seller with retail premises and a landline and I've been extremely happy with it. There are similar guys doing Dell desktops too and they're new and NOT refurbs or dell outlet machines. Let me know if you want the details.

else, look at ebuyer, and dabs for good pricing, ebuyer are doing a laptop Samsung R20 thats listed as a bargain and A listed in the current PC Pro magazine at £499 inc VAT - for just £399 inc vat! £100 off just by looking around!

There's more that could be said, but it'll take up all the space on this posting and yer'd fall asleep! so i'll shutup!

Hope this helps
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Re: New Laptop, what to get?
« Reply #20 on: October 17, 2007, 02:21:08 PM »
Laptop will be for personal use only no business at all or gaming etc.

Dennis, thank you.  I will have a look at how much the one I want cost's then pm you about the contact.

So funny, last time I asked my husband to pick up the What Mobile mag you suggested, he was so confused as to how I would know about it.  When I ask him for this one, he will get suspicious :P  Hehe.


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Re: New Laptop, what to get?
« Reply #21 on: October 17, 2007, 02:24:11 PM »
Don't know if this has been mentioned yet, but have you looked in the Which? magazine. I find them useful.

Sorry if this has already been posted!


Re: New Laptop, what to get?
« Reply #22 on: October 17, 2007, 02:24:48 PM »
Don't know if this has been mentioned yet, but have you looked in the Which? magazine. I find them useful.

Sorry if this has already been posted!

Nope, thank you ;D


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Re: New Laptop, what to get?
« Reply #23 on: October 17, 2007, 08:48:32 PM »
I LUV my Mac!!

Get yourself to an Apple store ASAP and play around with everything!!  The sales geeks will answer any question and show you around.

Or have a wander while at home.
http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore

Definitely cheaper in the US.

Easy to use and these days more things are Mac compatible.

I use my iBook G4 for music, pictures and internet and the occasional Microsoft document.



Re: New Laptop, what to get?
« Reply #24 on: October 17, 2007, 10:42:29 PM »
My husband is a HUGE Mac geek (we have his still-working Apple IIC in the basement to prove it), and has completely assimilated me.  I won't go on, but all the reasons mentioned above are true.

As for the expense, I'd recommend looking into a certified refurbished computer.  They're all refurbished by Apple and come with a one year warranty.  I know several people who've bought refurbished laptops, and have been more than happy with them.  It's a great way to get something a little more zippy for a reasonable price.

PM me if you have any questions and I'll be happy to have my Geek personally answer them. ;D


Re: New Laptop, what to get?
« Reply #25 on: October 17, 2007, 10:55:22 PM »
I get a new laptop every other year and so far Compaq has been the best. I'm shopping around now for a new one as the Advent I bought last year even though works great it's absolutely falling apart! Screws always coming off, a big chunk somehow broke off the corner, when I open the top I can hear loose bits rattling around. Complete waste of money. If I don't go back to Compaq I may try Sony.
Oh a side note the old Compaq laptop I bought when I first moved here 7 years ago is a heavy bulky thing but still runs perfectly!


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Re: New Laptop, what to get?
« Reply #26 on: October 17, 2007, 11:40:28 PM »
Another Mac fan here!

I used to use a PC all the time before I moved to the States and was forever having problems with it, (it wasn't even that old either). Hubs converted me to Macs, well, he didn't have to try too hard.  ;D  I found them to be very intuitive - no instructions needed.

When we moved to the UK early last year we brought over with us three PowerBooks, one iMac and a Toshiba laptop. The Toshiba went kaput and it wasn't all that old at all.

It's just a shame that I have to use a PC at work, damn thing goes t!ts-up too often.  :-X


Re: New Laptop, what to get?
« Reply #27 on: October 18, 2007, 10:54:14 AM »
Hmm, you are all now making it way to hard for me to decide.  I guess I should go to an Apple store and have a play.  I'm afraid to go in though because I LOVE it in there and will end up buying the store out :P

Arrrghhh.  Maybe I should ask the husband about it all.  He might laugh at me for wanting a MAC thought TBH.  He always has some geeky excuse for stuff like that.  Hmm, he will be stuck in bed for a few days, maybe I'll get him while he is drugged up! ;D :P


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Re: New Laptop, what to get?
« Reply #28 on: October 18, 2007, 12:20:00 PM »
Arrrghhh.  Maybe I should ask the husband about it all.  He might laugh at me for wanting a MAC thought TBH.  He always has some geeky excuse for stuff like that.  Hmm, he will be stuck in bed for a few days, maybe I'll get him while he is drugged up! ;D :P

One other thing to consider.  Is your husband your tech support guy?  Is he trainined in Windows, or does he think he is trained in Windows?  I ask because when you do have a problem, you probably want to find someone who can help you out (without charging an arm and a leg).

I bought my parents Macs because I was simply too tired trying to fix their Windows beasts of machines whenever they got infected.  Was just a lot easier.

Anyway, have fun with your visit to the store.  Tell one of the kids in the Apple shirts that you are thinking about switching and are wondering about some of the adjustments you'll have to make.  I'd also recommend going at an off hour (i.e. not lunch time, but maybe like 2:00 or so when the crowd has died down) so you can get some more guidance from the sales folks.

And if you are worried about spending too much, you can always leave your credit card at home :-)


Re: New Laptop, what to get?
« Reply #29 on: October 18, 2007, 12:35:27 PM »
Pretty sure he is trained.  He is a Programmer (Well, he was) for video games.  He fixes my computer anytime it needs it.

Are there Apple stores in London?  I can go in NY in January, but do I want to wait that long?


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