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connecting a DVD recorder
« on: January 13, 2008, 03:35:47 PM »
I feel like an idiot asking this, but if anyone can offer any advice, it'd be appreciated.  I am NOT asking DH for help on this!  >:(  (long story!)

I bought this DVD recorder today:  http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/5335718/Trail/C%24cip%3D1500006565.Sound%2Band%2Bvision%3EC%24cip%3D1500006604.DVD%2Band%2Bvideo%3EC%24cip%3D1500006607.DVD%2Brecorders.htm

and after messing with it and trying to read the manual for the last hour, i still cant get it to do anything.   When i try to concentrate on the manual, my eyes just glaze over!

We have cable TV, and our telly is only a year old, so should be modern spec.
I have no idea what other info anyone would need, but im just looking for a basic hook-up guide... which cables and scart leads to put where, and what settings to select from their set-up menu.

Sorry for being so thick!  Any advice gratefully received.


Re: connecting a DVD recorder
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2008, 03:45:47 PM »
Not sure if this helps, but it is probably much shorter than the manual...  ???

http://dvr.about.com/od/tvcapturemethods/ht/ht4.htm


Re: connecting a DVD recorder
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2008, 03:52:23 PM »
thanks for that.
i've had a brief look, but i dont see any mention of scart leads, which is what i've got.

it's possibly important to mention that there is also a video cassette recorder hooked up and HE DOES NOT WANT THIS REMOVED.

(he's totally against the idea of having a DVD recorder  ::) which is why i can't ask him for help.)


Re: connecting a DVD recorder
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2008, 04:32:04 PM »
it's possibly important to mention that there is also a video cassette recorder hooked up and HE DOES NOT WANT THIS REMOVED.

(he's totally against the idea of having a DVD recorder  ::) which is why i can't ask him for help.)

VHS... oh my.


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Re: connecting a DVD recorder
« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2008, 10:50:10 PM »
Hi Genau,

I understand how frustrating it can be to hookup home audio and video equipment nowadays - it can and often is quite complex espeically when you have to also configure units afterwards as well. Stick in more than one unit and which scart goes where for which channel on the TV etc and it's quite puzzling.

2 modes of attack - one you're already doing - have a look at the manual the dvd recorder came with, it 'should' have some diagrams showing how to connect it up in certain configurations, have a look on the back of the TV and locate the Scart socket (as you mention its modern, it should have at least one!) if it has more than one, look back in the TV booklet for what each Scart is for (AV1, AV2, AV3 etc - theres no real difference as such, just means you use DVD recorder on AV1, and VHS unit if it has a scart output on AV2, a PS2 for instance on AV3 etc - you just 'rememeber' which unit is connected to which scart socket) - difficulties will be if the VHS unit has no scart output, so then you'll need to connect it using the 'aerial' socket on the telly and/or RGB cables again assuming the telly has those corresponding inputs.

The second one means no headache for you as such!!  but, it means you'll have to pay. Have a look in your local papers for the satellite installers/specialist and find one with no call out charge. Speak to them first and they'll probably give you a quote to come in, set it all up and then configure the channels etc and give you a demo of which buttons to press in which sequence to use the dvd recorder and which to use for the VHS unit etc etc. Get a few quotes and go with the one who seems best to you.

I did something similar when I needed to split off satellite cables using a Quad output system, signal amplifiers for 4 telly's around the house, satellite recievers,Nintendo Wii's and PS2 and DVD cinema systems and VHS units all needing to be hooked in!

Good luck !!!
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Re: connecting a DVD recorder
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2008, 11:46:24 PM »
For a variety of reasons, the SCART arrangement is the most diabolical interconnection system ever devised for domestic video equipment.  Be thankful it has not caught on in America.

The theory when it was devised in France in the 1970s sounded very good.  It was supposed to make it easy for the non-technical person to make connections easily with just one big plug, instead of having to worry about left & right audio, composite video, component video, which were inputs and which were outputs, etc.   It probably served that purpose reasonably well in the early years, when the majority of people were just connecting one VCR to one TV. 

Over the years though, the specification has been amended to allow for S-video connections, widescreen switching, and so on, plus of course a typical domestic TV setup now has half a dozen boxes all interconnected.   

Some boxes support some of the SCART video interfaces, but not all (e.g. they might have composite video but not RGB).  Even on the same piece of equipment, two different SCART sockets can behave differently.  You might find that the AV1 socket has both inputs and outputs, while AV2 has only inputs.  Or AV2 might support S-video input & composite while AV1 is RGB & composite.  Unfortunately, the manuals often don't include this information, so it can sometimes be a matter of trial and error to match up a suitable SCART socket on one unit with a suitable one on another.

Then there is the dreaded auto-select line in the SCART interface.   The idea is that switching on a piece of equipment (VCR, cable converter, or whatever) causes the TV to switch automatically to the appropriate SCART input.  Unfortunately, that auto switching can often be more trouble than it's worth, as if you use a SCART socket which supports auto-select for recording, you can end up messing up the recording just because you switched on your TV and DVD player to watch a DVD!    I've lost count of the number of systems where mutiple interconnects with auto selection have caused so much trouble that I've just gone through every SCART cable and cut the appropriate line so that the user can switch everything manually.

But to get to the specific case:  To work out the best arrangement we really need to know what type and how many inputs & outputs you have on the existing equipment.  How many SCART sockets on the TV, VCR, and cable box?  Do you have any other sockets (RCA, S-video, etc.)?


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Re: connecting a DVD recorder
« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2008, 06:15:37 AM »
Thank you all- Paul, Dennis & Pamela!
I had such confidence when i started this, but now my mind is boggled and i think im going to go with Dennis' option 2:

The second one means no headache for you as such!!  but, it means you'll have to pay. Have a look in your local papers for the satellite installers/specialist and find one with no call out charge. Speak to them first and they'll probably give you a quote to come in, set it all up and then configure the channels etc and give you a demo of which buttons to press in which sequence to use the dvd recorder and which to use for the VHS unit etc etc. Get a few quotes and go with the one who seems best to you.

Just got to do it when DH isnt home so that he doesn't know i failed at the task!  ;D


Re: connecting a DVD recorder
« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2008, 07:03:26 AM »
Thank you all- Paul, Dennis & Pamela!
I had such confidence when i started this, but now my mind is boggled and i think im going to go with Dennis' option 2:

Just got to do it when DH isnt home so that he doesn't know i failed at the task!  ;D

Paying for someone else to do it is not failure... it is a perfectly good option that often works for me!  ;D


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Re: connecting a DVD recorder
« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2008, 07:27:36 AM »
If it makes you feel any better, I can't even hook up my Freeview box at my new flat. It worked just fine at my old one but I'm not feeling the love here!  :-\\\\
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Re: connecting a DVD recorder
« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2008, 07:50:58 AM »
Paying for someone else to do it is not failure... it is a perfectly good option that often works for me!  ;D


maybe not, but im still not going to admit it to him!  >:(


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Re: connecting a DVD recorder
« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2008, 09:07:50 AM »
Paying for someone else to do it is not failure... it is a perfectly good option that often works for me!  ;D

I agree! It takes a special kind of intelligence to find someone else to do things for you!  ;D ;)

(This is the option I would have chosen, too.)
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Re: connecting a DVD recorder
« Reply #11 on: February 08, 2008, 07:10:56 AM »
I finally got the DVD recorder connected up, thanks to an AV-savvy friend who is easily bribed with Mexican food.   We tested it, it works, and last night i recorded something... and took it upstairs to play on the little portable DVD player i keep in my bedroom.

It won't play.
It gives me a message saying 'invalid disc'.

 ???  anyone?   ???


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Re: connecting a DVD recorder
« Reply #12 on: February 08, 2008, 09:55:48 AM »
Does the player support the same formats as the recorder?   (DVD-R, DVD+R.)
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Re: connecting a DVD recorder
« Reply #13 on: February 08, 2008, 12:18:41 PM »
You probably need to "finish" the dvd.  I had this issue.  It would play on the player it was recorded on, but not on any other dvd player.

If you go to the disk menu (or look in the book) there should be something in there about finishing the dvd or something to that effect.  I just had to select it and it took a few minutes to process. 


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Re: connecting a DVD recorder
« Reply #14 on: February 08, 2008, 12:31:55 PM »
You probably need to "finish" the dvd.

Or it might appear on your system as "finalize."
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