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Re: Music differences - US vs UK
« Reply #30 on: May 22, 2008, 02:35:46 PM »
There are different kinds of country.  I hate the 'new' stuff - Shania Twain, keith Urban etc.  But I play Johnny Cash all the time, and I can dig a bit of Dolly Parton.

Boy named Sue is really not his best work.  I recommend the Live at Folsome Prison album.  The duet of 'Jackson' with June Carter is just brilliant.

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Reading that someone strongly dislikes Keith Urban is like dagger in the heart to me lol  :o  but I feel the same way about Johnny Cash & Dolly Parton as they are not my taste.   :)  I have never really been a fan of Shania Twain.   ::)  :P


Hmnnn..maybe I do like country after all ?

Me listened to Rascal Flatts - Me likey!  [smiley=2thumbsup.gif]


Rascal Flatts & Keith Urban are my top 2 Favorite Country Cd's I buy.  [smiley=guitarist.gif]  [smiley=smitten.gif]  I liked them both before they both became extremely popular.  ;D   [smiley=2thumbsup.gif]
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Re: Music differences - US vs UK
« Reply #31 on: May 22, 2008, 02:43:08 PM »

As for Shaina Twain...Urrgghh!! Its as bad as hearing fingernails scrape down a blackboard! [smiley=dizzy2.gif]


Couldn't have put it better meself!


I lurve Tracy Chapman and I am also a fan of Nizlopi's new stuff.


Not a big fan of Chapman, and really can't stand Nizlopi.  I remember when that bloody tractor song was out, it drove me nuts.

Reading that someone strongly dislikes Keith Urban is like dagger in the heart to me lol 


Sorry!

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Re: Music differences - US vs UK
« Reply #32 on: May 22, 2008, 02:49:08 PM »
really can't stand Nizlopi.  I remember when that bloody tractor song was out, it drove me nuts.

Yes the tractor one was played to death..I can't stand it either..I do like this one tho..



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Re: Music differences - US vs UK
« Reply #33 on: May 22, 2008, 02:49:22 PM »
Sorry!

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Thats ok cause we all cant like the same kind of music to each there own.   ;)  :)


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Re: Music differences - US vs UK
« Reply #34 on: May 22, 2008, 02:55:37 PM »
To get back to the original topic though, do you think there are more regional types of music in the US than there are here? eg Cajun/Zydeco from Louisiana, bluegrass from the south eastern states. I suppose in the UK we do have trad English, Scots and Irish music but it doesn't seem as popular as US regional music, nor as influential.


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Re: Music differences - US vs UK
« Reply #35 on: May 22, 2008, 03:01:20 PM »
We do have regional music.  'Mersey beat' was a defined genre in the 60's, Madchester in the 80's/early '90's, we have a growing Bhangra scene...it's not as wide ranging as the US, but we are a bit smaller!


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Re: Music differences - US vs UK
« Reply #36 on: May 22, 2008, 03:36:10 PM »
I don't know about today, but being an enthusiast of older music I know that the U.S. often tended to have regional hits back in the 1950s/60s, due in part to the numerous small, local record labels.   Sometimes a singer or group would get a lot of radio airplay on the West Coast but not in the East, or vice versa, or a song would only become a big nationwide hit if one of the larger companies (Decca, RCA, ABC-Paramount, etc.) picked up on the local popularity and starting selling copies widely across the country.

That's in slight contrast to -- to use Vicky's example -- the Merseybeat genre of the sixties in Britain, where suddenly groups from that area were all the rage but the records sold right across the country pretty much from the outset.   There were relatively few small, independent labels such as those which could be found by the hundred in America at that time, so once Parlophone, H.M.V., Decca, or whoever picked up the song here, it would soon be sold right across the country.

I think another consideration for that time was also how people got to hear the music.  Choices in Britain during that Merseybeat era were extremely limited, outside of live music or the ubiquitous jukebox.   The BBC and ITA had a couple of weekly pop music shows on television (Six-Five Special, Juke Box Jury etc.).  Radio had nothing like the choice of the U.S. at that time, with just three official BBC stations, only one of which broadcast "pop," and even that was severely limited in its content. 

There was Radio Luxembourg, and then the pirate stations caught on in a big way from about 1964 (Radio Caroline & Radio London being two of the most well known), but that still doesn't give a huge range of stations, and still not on the regional American basis.

BBC Radio 1 started in 1967, but on a national basis, and even when BBC and ILR stations opened during the 1970s many were little more than regional variations of a cross between Radio 1 and Radio 2. 

The explosion in the assortment of "genre stations" which can be found around the U.K. today didn't happen until the 1980s when licensing conditions were drastically relaxed. 

I would say that this history of British radio broadcasting has probably played a fairly large part in there being less regional variation in the U.K. (as well as the compact size of the country, of course).
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Re: Music differences - US vs UK
« Reply #37 on: May 22, 2008, 03:55:15 PM »
anyone going to bestival?

me and the dog are going this year....lol


www.bestival.net

its very chilled for those that haven't been and attracts an older crowd - 30,s 40,s etc

I see Amy will now be there - drugs permitting tho i am particularly looking forward to seeing the Human league and Gary Numan both artists i saw during my misspent (and ongoing ) youth..... ;)
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Re: Music differences - US vs UK
« Reply #38 on: May 22, 2008, 04:21:25 PM »
I'm doing Glasto again.  Not impressed with Amy and Jay-Z on the Saturday night, but I'll cope...I'll be watching The Proclaimers and the Wurzels!

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Re: Music differences - US vs UK
« Reply #39 on: May 22, 2008, 04:26:18 PM »
It all depends on the circles that you run in, music popularity is subjective.

I don't entirely disagree, but there is a dominant culture of music today in the United States, at least in the Urban areas, and that is Hip Hop and Rap...with American Indie / Alternative in 2nd.  The majority of the music I tend to like comes from the UK and is either Indie or One of the many sub-genres of Electronica, there is so very little exposure to any music other than Rap and Hip Hop here that there almost no "circles" of people that share my taste....I suppose the only positive side of this is being able to go to concert or venue and seeing a concert that is a bit more initimate due to the smaller crowd.


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Re: Music differences - US vs UK
« Reply #40 on: May 22, 2008, 04:27:49 PM »
I'm doing Glasto again.  Not impressed with Amy and Jay-Z on the Saturday night, but I'll cope...I'll be watching The Proclaimers and the Wurzels!

Vicky

Yeah what the hell, Jay-Z at Glastonbury?!  Please do me a favour and boo him off stage.


Re: Music differences - US vs UK
« Reply #41 on: May 22, 2008, 04:45:23 PM »
I think the first reason that lodged itself in my head for wanting to move over here was music. I was huge into BritPop, Madchester, Shoe-gazing (Thames Valley), and some Bristol stuff (Portishead, Massive Attack).... I was also sick of paying import prices and having to search high and low for stuff I liked (for any Bay Area people, for many years I think I probably kept Mod Lang in business!!).

As for radio I think it's generally better here, not counting good college radio (there are bad college stations too!!) While US radio went through a nice "alternative" phase while I was at uni and just before (The Quake!!! Live 105 in it's early days!!) I think US commercial radio is DIRE. I listen to Virgin and XFM and while it's still too commercial for me, I like it FAR more than any mainstream US stations.

Country? Meh. Other than old stuff (Johnny Cash, some Willie Nelson, etc) and some (but my no means all) alt country (a la Wilco, Niko Case, etc) I HATE it.


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Re: Music differences - US vs UK
« Reply #42 on: May 22, 2008, 04:55:05 PM »
I think the first reason that lodged itself in my head for wanting to move over here was music. I was huge into BritPop, Madchester, Shoe-gazing (Thames Valley), and some Bristol stuff (Portishead, Massive Attack).... I was also sick of paying import prices and having to search high and low for stuff I liked (for any Bay Area people, for many years I think I probably kept Mod Lang in business!!).

As for radio I think it's generally better here, not counting good college radio (there are bad college stations too!!) While US radio went through a nice "alternative" phase while I was at uni and just before (The Quake!!! Live 105 in it's early days!!) I think US commercial radio is DIRE. I listen to Virgin and XFM and while it's still too commercial for me, I like it FAR more than any mainstream US stations.

Country? Meh. Other than old stuff (Johnny Cash, some Willie Nelson, etc) and some (but my no means all) alt country (a la Wilco, Niko Case, etc) I HATE it.

Yeah same situation here.. my attraction to the UK all started with the music....but yes commercial radio in Britain is FAR better than any mainstream US stations...US Commercial Radio is plain awful.


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Re: Music differences - US vs UK
« Reply #43 on: May 22, 2008, 05:01:31 PM »
Yeah what the hell, Jay-Z at Glastonbury?!  Please do me a favour and boo him off stage.

He's rubbish, but it's not his fault.  It was a stupid booking.  I won't boo, cos I will be at the Avalon stage.  I don't really mind that the main stage on the Saturday night is so rubbish, as it will just encourage me to see more leftfield acts.  That didn't happen last year.

It is strange that the US doesn't seem to have that much of an alternative scene.  Didn't 'High Fidelity' make a difference?

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Re: Music differences - US vs UK
« Reply #44 on: May 22, 2008, 05:15:00 PM »
It is strange that the US doesn't seem to have that much of an alternative scene.  Didn't 'High Fidelity' make a difference?

When I lived in Iowa there wasn't much of an alternative scene, but they surely had it in San Francisco and in Atlanta.  Isn't it sort of part of the deal with alternative that it's not too popular?  Because if everybody gets it then it's no longer as cool? :-\\\\ 
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