Children of British Mothers born pre 1983... useful info

See this link that Vicky kindly shared not too long ago:

http://www.commonsleader.gov.uk/output/page2373.asp

No, the bill it is attached to hasn't been passed yet.  The link will take you to a table where you can follow all the action...

Forgive me - I went and reviewed & searched through the link (very broad in nature) & could not seem to find anything that is directly attributable to the "Children of British mothers born" - (citizenship in this thread)

If I am mistaken - is this it?

http://www.commonsleader.gov.uk/OutPut/Page2653.asp

If not, could someone please provide more details

Thanks

Sorry I didn't give more info...but yes, it is a part of that bill.  So, whenever they get done debating that and it becomes law, so does the children of British mothers part of it...or so they say.

This is from the UKBA website:

http://www.bia.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitecontent/newsfragments/childrenofbritishmothers

You can use the previous link I gave to follow along - as you can see, it is due for a first reading on January 14...

Sorry I didn't give more info...but yes, it is a part of that bill.  So, whenever they get done debating that and it becomes law, so does the children of British mothers part of it...or so they say.

This is from the UKBA website:

http://www.bia.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitecontent/newsfragments/childrenofbritishmothers

You can use the previous link I gave to follow along - as you can see, it is due for a first reading on January 14...

Yes & thanks, I remember that from the previous discussions on here last year

I shall keep on checking the first link that you provided today

Thanks again

No problem...it just seems like there should be more info out there on this by now, but that's pretty much it.  I'm just anxious to see what's going to happen with the bill itself, since I'm not happy that the children of British mothers part of it has to be 'attached' to all these proposed major changes in immigration law...

does anyone have an update on the latest ... is it heading for RA?

Not yet, comittee stage isn't even done.

Vicky

Thanks, I shall keep my radio dial tuned to this station

found this

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/ld200809/ldbills/029/09029.i-iii.html#top

main index page, click on section 43

does it make any sense and can anyone interpret or have any further info

Royal assent 7/20/2009

http://services.parliament.uk/bills/2008-09/borderscitizenshipandimmigration.html

its final, nothing else left?

That children born prior to 1961 of British mothers are eligible for citizenship

Yep, we just have to wait for it to actually be implemented (whenever that may be) and then it's full speed ahead!    Really, the registration forms are already out there, they just need to remove that cut off birth date...

This is a different matter - but is there any proposal to waive the application/fee part entirely?  It seems silly that because your parent is one gender instead of another, you have to wait ages and pay money to become a citizen instead of it being automatic.

Seriously, the BCI is such a pathetic piece of crap that it can't even properly fix a blatant case of discrimination by making citizenship automatic to children of British mothers born at any time. Disgusting.

This is a different matter - but is there any proposal to waive the application/fee part entirely?  It seems silly that because your parent is one gender instead of another, you have to wait ages and pay money to become a citizen instead of it being automatic.

Not as far as I know...and it's more than silly, it's discriminatory IMO.  Not only do we children of British woman pay a fee, we also must show 'good character' and must attend a citizenship ceremony, while the foreign-born children of British men just apply for a passport!  Don't get me started on THAT part of it...

MTA:  I actually have a LONG letter from the UKBA explaining to me why they wouldn't let me register ahead of the law changing (and before my visa expired).  The explanation included the fact that registration was necessary so that they don't FORCE citizenship on anyone!  Apparently, the foreign-born children of British men don't suffer by being forced into citizenship??!


This got me thinking about the history of it all...if a British woman moved with her foreign husband to a country that doesn't allow dual nationality, I suppose this mght be an issue, and I suppose more British woman moved to a foreign country than British men, but I don't really know the history or if there is any truth to what is just an assumption...

Not as far as I know...and it's more than silly, it's discriminatory IMO.  Not only do we children of British woman pay a fee, we also must show 'good character' and must attend a citizenship ceremony, while the foreign-born children of British men just apply for a passport!  Don't get me started on THAT part of it...

Oh, I totally agree.  "Silly" was the nicest term I could think of. 

It hadn't occurred to me that the child of a British man could be a serial killer and still get automatic citizenship...that's even better.

Hopefully this whole process will improve at some point (though I bet it's not until most of the people born in 1963-1982 are too old to take advantage of it).

That's the thing - birth dates won't matter any more -this was also one of the arguments against a change - those in their 40's and 50's probably wouldn't want citizenship or move to the UK at this point in their lives anyway. 

But, seriously, if someone in their 90's who is the child of a British man wanted to, at this late date, apply for a British passport after having been born in Florida and lived there all his/her life, they could if they wanted to...the same goes for axe murderers and serial killers, apparently, because all they have to do is apply for the passport (that is, as long as their British dad was actually married to the mother!).