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My Visa Application was Denied..What Do I do Now??
« on: August 20, 2008, 07:27:34 PM »
I just received my passport with a refusal of my visa application! Reasons were that I failed to provide evidence that any arrangements to either give notice of the marriage or for the actual marriage to take place had been made..I didn't have any 'paperwork' on it, but we do have anappointment with the regisrar on the 15th of September and I put that in there..
Next reason..I failed to provide evidence of my business transactions or recent tax statements, (I own my own business), AND I failed to provide any evidence of how I will finance my proposed visit to the UK eg recent bank statements. Against this background, he is not satisfied that my employment circumstances in the US are sufficient so as to prompt my departure.
It also says that my application does not attract a full right of appeal under section 82(1).
Is there ANYTHING I can do? And if not with the visa, will I still be allowed to go over just to visit on my passport alone? I am so discouraged right now and need all the help I can get...
Thank you
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Re: My Visa Application was Denied..What Do I do Now??
« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2008, 08:05:04 PM »
what consulate was this?Did you get your money back?  Keri


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Re: My Visa Application was Denied..What Do I do Now??
« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2008, 08:05:26 PM »
All you can do is reapply with the documents they ask for.

They should know that you can't give notice of the marriage until you are there, that is stupid.

And no, she wouldn't have got her money back!

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Re: My Visa Application was Denied..What Do I do Now??
« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2008, 09:43:07 PM »
Oh dear, that's terrible news.   :(   Now I'm nervous again.


Re: My Visa Application was Denied..What Do I do Now??
« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2008, 11:23:58 PM »
Refusal of an MVV does not attract appeal rights.  As Vicky said, you'll have to make a fresh application that fixes each and every objection pointed out in your notice.

It's not clear what your strategy was by not including financials, but that's pretty much a show-stopper for just showing up at a border point with your passport.  There's no rule that says you can't TRY to get in, but if they see the refusal in your passport, they will ask you to wait while they check your transcript, and when they see that you didn't provide financials, you will have to think up something to say.   And once they smell a bounce, it's almost impossible to tell them anything.

There is no prescriptive text for the lack of specific marriage plans, and it's interesting to see how this was worded.  If you can take the time to reproduce the exact text, it can be helpful.


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Re: My Visa Application was Denied..What Do I do Now??
« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2008, 05:13:23 AM »
Okay Garry, here is the exact text on the first part:
The Entry Clearance Officer's decision
The UK Border Agency and the British Consulate Los Angeles provide information to visa applicants about the types of documents they will be required to produce so that they can demonstrate to the visa officer that they meet the requirements of the Immigration Rules. We advise applicants that the failure to submit such documentation may result in refusal of the application. This decision has been made on the basis of the evidence you have supplied. The onus is on applicants to demonstrate that they meet the requirements of the relevant rules. You have declared that the information you have provided is complete and true to the best of your knowledge.
You wish to obtain entry clearance in order to spend twenty-nine days in the UK for the purpose of getting married. However, you have failed to provide any evidence that any arrangements to either give notice of the marriage or for the actual marriage to take place have been made. I am therefore not satisfied that you are genuinely seeking entry as a visitor for a limited period as stated by you, not exceeding 6 months. Moreover, I am not satisfied that you intend to give notice of marriage or marry in the UK within the period for which entry is sought.
Second part:
You state on your application form that you are self-employed and have owned your own business 'Carter's Health Foods' since 1 March 2003 and your monthly income is $6000. However, you have failed to provide any evidence of this eg your bsiness license, evidence of your business transactions or recent tax statements. Moreover, you have failed to to provide any evidence of how you will finance your proposed visit to the UK, eg recent bank statements. Against this background, I am not satisfied that your employmen circumstances in the US are sufficient so as to prompt your departure.
I therefore refuse your application.

Why do they not tell you on the application that you need all these things? I admit, I failed terribly at my resaearch on all of this..but that is hind sight now.
I have a ticket for the 8th of September..do I resend my application next day air with all of the financial documents and hope it gets back to me in time? I won't have to do the biometrics again will I?
Nothing seems to be straightforward with any of this..as far as details..you need this, this and this...you have to look 20 different places and still hope you have it all together. I'm sorry..I am frustrated. I haven't seen my fiance in 3 months and was so looking forward to seeing him next month...I just don't know what to do...


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Re: My Visa Application was Denied..What Do I do Now??
« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2008, 05:40:43 AM »
I'm sure they want to know you've done more than make an appointment for registering.  Do you have a dress?  Have you made arrangements for anything?  Do you have a reception planned?  What about honeymoon plans that would show you're leaving the UK? 

I'm not an expert by any stretch of the imagination but having just gotten married, I can tell you there's a lot of evidence you can provide other than the fact you have an appointment to register.  Deposit receipts, etc.
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Re: My Visa Application was Denied..What Do I do Now??
« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2008, 08:15:13 AM »
oh no!!  I am so sorry to hear that...good luck :)
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Re: My Visa Application was Denied..What Do I do Now??
« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2008, 09:04:08 AM »
Interesting formulae on their part.  It reads like the application was not grounded and lacked premise. 

Did you include a sponsor attestation?  I.e., where was your fiance in all of this?



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Re: My Visa Application was Denied..What Do I do Now??
« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2008, 09:31:34 AM »
This is Britainusa's advice on what to provide.  I got as much info as I could and wrote a letter stating each point was covered.  Use this as a guide. 

As for the Intent of marriage. I got round that by emailing the registrar some little questions and asking if he / she could confirm the date was still available.  I printed all the emails off and used that as evidence and supplied the registrars address and a brochure and contact and address for the reception venue. ( you can always book somewhere, get them to send you a quote, then cancel it ) you are not obliged to pay a deposit for quite a few weeks after the booking anyway, just a thought )

Photos of you guys together, his finances as well as yours ( printed statements ) and also I wrote a letter of intension myself for my OH to come over which as far as I was aware was acceptable if you did not have any evidence of marriage plans.

ADVICE FOR APPLICANTS

It is your responsibility to satisfy the Entry Clearance Officer that you meet all the criteria of the category under which you are applying. Therefore, it is in your interest to ensure that you are fully prepared before submitting an application. An Entry Clearance officer will base their decision to issue or refuse on the documents you submit.

PLEASE NOTE THAT THE APPLICATION PROCESSING FEE IS NON-REFUNDABLE IRRESPECTIVE OF THE OUTCOME OF YOUR APPLICATION.

Documentary Requirements

1) Online application

2) Passport (note: It should be the original document and have ample validity)

3) One passport size photograph (Click here for example)

4) Fiance(e)s Passport

If your fiance(e) is a British citizen by birth but does not hold a British passport then a full (long form) British birth certificate giving parents’ names will suffice. A British Visitor’s Passport is not sufficient.

If your fiance(e) is entitled to right of abode in the United Kingdom but travels on a non-British passport, that passport containing the Certificate or stamp of the Right of Abode must be produced.

If your fiance(e) is a foreign national with indefinite leave to remain in the United Kingdom, produce that passport.

If your fiance(e) holds a British citizen passport, produce that passport.


5) Letter Of Support

If your fiance(e) does not attend in person at the time of your application then we require a letter from them to state that:

a) they are aware of and support your application to marry them in the United Kingdom.
b) that each of the parties intends to live permanently with the other as his or her spouse after the marriage has taken place.


6) Date and plans for marriage

Evidence of any arrangements already made for the marriage or a statement of when and where it will take place.

NOTE: In the case of a register office marriage the registrar will not normally supply a letter of confirmation until he/she is satisfied both parties are present in the United Kingdom and free to marry. In this case we request a statement of your intentions only.

7) Termination Of Previous Marriage

(i) divorce papers showing the date the divorce became final;

or/

(ii) divorce papers showing that the divorce is well under way;

or/

(iii) death certificate.

8) Evidence Of Accommodation

This may come in various forms:

a) Lease or tenancy agreement for private rented property

b) Tenancy agreement with the local authority housing department

c) Mortgage papers for privately owned property

d) Title deeds (OR letter from the organization holding the deeds).


If you plan to stay temporarily with relatives or friends we require a letter from them giving their consent to this arrangement. In addition evidence in the form of (a), (b), (c) or (d) that they have suitable temporary accommodation available for you and your dependants.
NOTE: Under the Rules you must demonstrate that you have the intention and ability to acquire adequate accommodation of your own or which you occupy yourselves (i.e. a separate unit of accommodation. One room in a shared property may not be acceptable other than on a strictly temporary basis).

9) Financial Support

Evidence that you and your fiance(e) can support yourselves and your dependants without recourse to public funds may include one or a combination of the following documents according to your circumstances.

a) Letter from your fiance(e)’s employer in the United Kingdom stating the position in the company, length of service, annual salary and whether the position is permanent.

b) Offers of employment for either/both parties including details of salary.

c) Recent statements of bank and saving accounts showing sufficient means of support while employment is sought in the United Kingdom or for indefinite support if no employment is planned.

d) Educational or vocational certificates and C.V. to demonstrate qualification for potential employment in the area in which you plan to live.

e) References from previous employers.

f) Enquiries made regarding employment in the United Kingdom.

g) Plans for self-employment in the United Kingdom.

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Re: My Visa Application was Denied..What Do I do Now??
« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2008, 05:02:52 PM »
Thank you sooo much Lucky for all that info! I was not aware of all of that for a visitors visa and obviously I have really hurt myself here..
My ticket is for the 8th of September..do I even dare try to go now with just my passport? If I were to take all of the financial information with me would that help? Obviously we will not be getting married this trip..but I don't have time to gather all this information and send for a new visa before my ticket date. Is there any hope of me seeing my fiance now???

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Re: My Visa Application was Denied..What Do I do Now??
« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2008, 05:22:09 PM »
Its not for a visitor visa ...its for a fiance visa for which you need before you marry.

You can visit the uk without a visa from the US...you have a timeline that you are allowed to stay for and you can't get married unless you apply for the fiancee visa in the states as registrars have to check it.

Have you travelled to the UK before?
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Re: My Visa Application was Denied..What Do I do Now??
« Reply #12 on: August 21, 2008, 05:41:59 PM »
She applied for a visit for marriage visa, I believe.  In which case, she should have provided evidence of ties to the US, marriage plans and financials.  If it was a straight visitor's visa, different evidence. 

Vicky will correct me if i'm wrong.. but if the OP applied for a visit for marriage visa, she applied for the wrong visa if there's no wedding planned during her trip.
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Re: My Visa Application was Denied..What Do I do Now??
« Reply #13 on: August 21, 2008, 05:48:34 PM »
Kristi - there was going to be a wedding, but now obviously not.

LuckyCuz - you can't really say that she 'can' visit the UK without a visa, as I would place money on her getting bounced if she now tried to enter.

Sorry.

They will look at the computer, see you were refused a marriage visit visa, see the reasons, and send you straight back.  I have no doubt of this.

Shall I do my "don't book the ticket until you have the visa" speech again....?


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Re: My Visa Application was Denied..What Do I do Now??
« Reply #14 on: August 21, 2008, 06:03:35 PM »
I was confused because earlier posts of hers referred to visit visa with intent to marry.  But she didn't say anything about having a date set, a venue or any plans for the wedding.  It's one thing to not be able to give notice yet and still have made arrangements.
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