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Re: How long did it take you to make friends in the UK?
« Reply #45 on: October 28, 2008, 12:14:30 PM »
This is completely off topic, but I can't get over the fact that so many people on here think that British women are so closed off and cold! I find them to be so wonderful and warm,

I agree. In the 5 years I lived in Pembrokeshire, I made the closest women friends I've ever made in my life!
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Re: How long did it take you to make friends in the UK?
« Reply #46 on: October 28, 2008, 12:37:02 PM »
What an interesting and relevant question.  My husband and I have been in London for over four years. We are both foreigners, and only he has had one consistent job the whole time. I'd say it took us about two very difficult years to have anything resembling a circle of friends, most of whom are other expats. I like British people, but I have only befriended a few through a synagogue I was going to for a bit. And they aren't English, are they. I work part-time freelancing and am desperately looking for a "regular" job largely to rectify this problem, as I do think most contacts are made via work. For about two years I went to various art and drama classes three evenings a week; the only friends I carried away from that time were, yes, other foreigners. I don't really know why this is. I think British people are so different from expats. Their families are never far away. If they're here in London even if they've made the move to the city they have not travelled very far, and as some people have commented on this thread they would not comprehend that some strangers they meet might very much want some new friends. Again, through some drama, art and writing activities (yes I'm a bit of a dilettante) I've met some really nice British people, but we don't socialize apart from a visit to the pub after the activity. When I am in a negative, complaining mood I feel that British people are very weird to Americans. I was bothered by this a few years ago, but by now I don't really care. And yes, there are regional differences. There is a generally cold, miserable air in London, but up north and in Scotland it is very different. In Glasgow, by gum, you can barely avoid having silly conversations with strangers! I felt right at home with that. Whether it makes it easier to make friends I don't know, but it was quite fun. Lastly, I find British women quite cold, although I do observe them being very nice and warm to one another- it's just never extended to me.


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Re: How long did it take you to make friends in the UK?
« Reply #47 on: October 28, 2008, 12:38:03 PM »
I certainly don't find British women to be 'cold' or stand-offish or anything like that, but perhaps it is just a stage of life thing. All the women I know are my age, 24-27 and fresh out of uni where they all forged strong circles of friends and simply seem to have no interest or desire to add to those groups. I know a few girls from work who are really nice and we eat lunch together and occassionally have drinks after work, but even when I've plucked up the courage to 'ask them out' (as it was so aptly put earlier :D) to non-work related things, like a move for instance, I always get turned down (despite the fact that I've known them for 2 years!). I haven't found the same sort of reservation from the guys here, they seem to have a 'more the merrier' mentality. But like I said, I think that may be due to age and life circumstances rather than any sort of generalisation about British women as a whole.
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Re: How long did it take you to make friends in the UK?
« Reply #48 on: October 28, 2008, 12:53:09 PM »
and as some people have commented on this thread they would not comprehend that some strangers they meet might very much want some new friends.

Yes, they would!  Some British people have moved to new places too!


Again, through some drama, art and writing activities (yes I'm a bit of a dilettante) I've met some really nice British people, but we don't socialize apart from a visit to the pub after the activity.

But...that *is* socialising!


When I am in a negative, complaining mood I feel that British people are very weird to Americans.
I hope you are not in this mood often then.


There is a generally cold, miserable air in London,


Lastly, I find British women quite cold, although I do observe them being very nice and warm to one another- it's just never extended to me.

Well, welcome to the forum.  I am sorry that you feel like this, but really, you need to realise that there are lots of lovey, friendly British women on this forum, and these sorts of generalisations are guaranteed to make us be 'weird' to you!

You've been in the UK for four years, and I am quite surprised that you generalise like this!  Many people realise that 'British women' as a collective are not the sort of people who are going to ask you to the movies within 30 seconds of meeting you, but to call us cold is unfair and wrong.

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Re: How long did it take you to make friends in the UK?
« Reply #49 on: October 28, 2008, 02:04:14 PM »
So, uh, Vicky... wanna go out sometime?   ;D

Just thought I would get up the courage to "ask out" a nice British lady...  ;)

The women here all seem really nice, I am sure I will make more friends in time.  I just feel a bit shy sometimes, and I think it boils down to ME thinking everyone thinks of me as a "foreigner" (well, I am, but when I say that about myself, the English seem to say "Well, you're American, that's hardly foreign!"  LOL)  I have only been here a few months, and at least some of the ladies from work have asked me to come along with them a few times (and one invited herself to yoga with me after I casually mentioned it), so maybe it's up to me to ask them around for a drink....   ;)

Think of how hard it must be if you moved to a place where you didn't speak the language!  When I think of all my Mexican friends in Texas who came over before knowing how to speak much English, I think of how scary that must've been for them...



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Re: How long did it take you to make friends in the UK?
« Reply #50 on: October 28, 2008, 02:17:02 PM »
i live in the southeast and many people (99% british) have told me this is a hard area to warm up to people. Not necessarily unfriendly...just different i guess.
i confess it has taken me awhile but i do feel now that i have some very lovely friendships.
they are different to my friends in the u.s.
i lived in new england and in my area you just popped in on friends ALL the time! and them to you of course. i do feel it's more 'rigid' (for lack of a better word) here in that you make specific plans to do things with your friends, etc. but again...i've been told by many down here in my corner of the UK that it is far more 'new england-like' in northern england and scotland. it's easy to stereotype i guess as i have not been everywhere but persistance goes a long way :o) (in a nice...not crazy person kind of way LOL)
i agree that hobbies are a great way to go...nothing breaks the ice like loving the same things :o)


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Re: How long did it take you to make friends in the UK?
« Reply #51 on: October 28, 2008, 02:29:59 PM »
So, uh, Vicky... wanna go out sometime?   ;D



I would love to!  Several of the ladies (and a few of the chaps) on UKY know I am ALWAYS up for a few beers after work.

 ;D

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Re: How long did it take you to make friends in the UK?
« Reply #52 on: October 28, 2008, 02:54:12 PM »
I agree with this. For me, after hanging out with guys for so long it was fun to start hanging out with girls again. You need a few girlfriends who just 'get it' you know?  :)

Unfortunately those usually need time to build.

Well, in general, I've always found it easier to  hang out with guys than girls anyway.

I think it's important in threads like this to remember that everyone is an individual. Just because some people feel that friendship is of paramount importance and some people are happy on their own doesn't mean that either is better or something to somehow aspire to....

Well said. 

And it has nothing to do with how one has adjusted with the UK. I would feel the same about my s.o. if I were living in the US. 

I also don't find British women to be cold.The reason that I don't have more than casual friendships with women here is because I haven't made the effort - nothing to do with them.
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Re: How long did it take you to make friends in the UK?
« Reply #53 on: October 28, 2008, 02:58:31 PM »
Well, in general, I've always found it easier to  hang out with guys than girls anyway.

Same!  And the few female friends I have had in my life have been total tomboys.


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Re: How long did it take you to make friends in the UK?
« Reply #54 on: October 28, 2008, 04:34:06 PM »
hey there- just popped back to this forum. I'm sorry, I'm just describing my experience. I thought I was deflecting it by explaining that I see British women being very nice to their friends. It was a response to a previous comment that British women were cold. I don't think I ever expected a welcoming committee, but at some point I felt like I was trying and it wasn't going that well. To say British women are warm or cold is as silly as making the same generalization about Americans, who are not all born the same way. My apologies.


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Re: How long did it take you to make friends in the UK?
« Reply #55 on: October 28, 2008, 04:38:46 PM »
To say British women are warm or cold is as silly as making the same generalization about Americans, who are not all born the same way. My apologies.

But...I though you were all 'Sex in the City' clones who are obsessed with shoes and hair!!!!

 ;D

Kidding!  And no offence taken.


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Re: How long did it take you to make friends in the UK?
« Reply #56 on: October 28, 2008, 05:57:42 PM »
honestly, from one well adjusted (for a year! ;D) ex-pat to another, do the same!  The superiority gets old!


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Who was this directed to??  :o ???


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Re: How long did it take you to make friends in the UK?
« Reply #57 on: October 28, 2008, 06:05:57 PM »
I would love to!  Several of the ladies (and a few of the chaps) on UKY know I am ALWAYS up for a few beers after work.

 ;D

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Re: How long did it take you to make friends in the UK?
« Reply #58 on: October 28, 2008, 06:13:02 PM »
WOT?!?!
Who was this directed to??  :o ???

Yes, I wondered the same.  ???

I don't understand what is wrong with people giving constructive help and advice to those who are struggling?  I was appreciative of the help and support given me on here when I was struggling.  I don't understand the 'superiority' reference at all.  I think this thread has been really nice & mostly respectful, which is about all you can ask.

I don't think I'm much of a girlie-girl in that I really don't enjoy talking about things like 'Sex and the City', shoes, clothes, etc all that much.  Maybe that's why I'm okay on being best friends with my husband, and as QG said - keeping it light & simple otherwise.

And I think British women are friendly & lovely!  :-*  (and I'm one of them  ;))
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Re: How long did it take you to make friends in the UK?
« Reply #59 on: October 28, 2008, 06:23:42 PM »
I have been here over a year now and am beginning to make friends.  (Mrs. R. is one of those lovely British girlfriends  [smiley=daisy.gif] (I can't find the "kiss" smiley...))

I have joined a drama class, and while I enjoy it, I don't think there are any friends there for me.  There certainly weren't any friends for me when I volunteered and at my first job location, either.  But still, I plug on.  I really like my husband's friends wives and partners but they we see each other more as couples than as "just us girls" hanging out.

I am beginning to realize that certain friendships (if any, really) can never be duplicated.  I am not a sex and shoes conversation type girl, either.  My best friends back in the US were centered around my job and music stuff....
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