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Re: Friend turned away at Heathrow for a visit to BF, needs advice please!
« Reply #75 on: November 07, 2008, 05:06:13 PM »
No, because coming from Paris there would still be immigration controls, and she may be bounced again.  However, coming from Ireland there are no immigration controls at all.


That seems odd.  But I see your point.  OTOH, if you get bounced and you've already gotten into France...you're in Paris! :D 

That's what I thought too about the passport.  She said it wasn't scanned, but I would think it still has to go into the system even if it's manually done based on your landing card, right?  I know the back of the landing card has all the spaces for the I/O agent to write in. 
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Re: Friend turned away at Heathrow for a visit to BF, needs advice please!
« Reply #76 on: November 07, 2008, 05:10:21 PM »
Though if you're flying in from Amsterdam, I have seen sniffer dogs in the baggage collection area at Leeds before - but that's another matter entirely...  :)

If Leeds-Bradford airport were your first stop in the UK, coming from the US,  you would have to go to Amsterdam first, right?

At least that was the only way I could find to get to Leeds three or four years ago.


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Re: Friend turned away at Heathrow for a visit to BF, needs advice please!
« Reply #77 on: November 07, 2008, 05:12:07 PM »
That seems odd.  But I see your point.  OTOH, if you get bounced and you've already gotten into France...you're in Paris! :D 

That's what I thought too about the passport.  She said it wasn't scanned, but I would think it still has to go into the system even if it's manually done based on your landing card, right?  I know the back of the landing card has all the spaces for the I/O agent to write in. 

And the landing card goes into her file.

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Re: Friend turned away at Heathrow for a visit to BF, needs advice please!
« Reply #78 on: November 07, 2008, 05:13:32 PM »
If Leeds-Bradford airport were your first stop in the UK, coming from the US,  you would have to go to Amsterdam first, right?

Not sure what you are asking.  If you're flying into LBA from the US, via Amsterdam, then yeah - that'd be your first stop (Amsterdam) before the UK.  But people can fly in here via other regional European airports too - Dublin, Paris, cities in Spain, etc.
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« Reply #79 on: November 07, 2008, 05:46:43 PM »
I thought Amsterdam was the closest and easiest though, not counting Dublin.


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Re: Friend turned away at Heathrow for a visit to BF, needs advice please!
« Reply #80 on: November 07, 2008, 05:48:39 PM »
I thought Amsterdam was the closest and easiest though.

Yes, it is, but that's not how I understood your question.  :)

Between LBA & Schilpol, you usually end up spending more time taxi-ing on the runway than you actually spend in the air!
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Re: Friend turned away at Heathrow for a visit to BF, needs advice please!
« Reply #81 on: November 07, 2008, 06:13:55 PM »
The Refusal of Leave to Enter stamp is a rounded rectangle about 1 inch wide with a double border.  Inside it has the date, port, and IO number.  It has a vertical and horizontal line through it making a cross.

If somebody evaded controls, like coming in through the Republic after a bounce, they can also get the immigration prohibited stamp.  This is about 2 1/2 inches and takes about a half page in the passport and it has the same info as the other stamp except the large letters, "IMMIGRATION PROHIBITED" across it.

People have tried to "lose" their passports for a looooooong time, nobody here has a claim to being the first person to think that up.  When you get caught in that game, it's treated the same as evading immigration controls.

Regardless of how you get in, remember that failure to apply for leave will soon be a full-out criminal offense which requires disclosure and interferes with your life just like any other criminal offense.


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Re: Friend turned away at Heathrow for a visit to BF, needs advice please!
« Reply #82 on: November 07, 2008, 07:00:53 PM »
The Refusal of Leave to Enter stamp is a rounded rectangle about 1 inch wide with a double border.  Inside it has the date, port, and IO number.  It has a vertical and horizontal line through it making a cross.

If somebody evaded controls, like coming in through the Republic after a bounce, they can also get the immigration prohibited stamp.  This is about 2 1/2 inches and takes about a half page in the passport and it has the same info as the other stamp except the large letters, "IMMIGRATION PROHIBITED" across it.


She says she doesn't have either of those stamps in her passport.

18:56:04)  its the stamp they give you when you are accepted
(18:56:09) it stays heathrow airport
(18:56:21) and her immigration officer number
(18:56:22) annaonthemoon79: does it say on it "leave to remain 6 mos"?
(18:56:26)  and then just a pen line through it
(18:56:28) *no
(18:56:35) it says:
(18:56:58)  Immigration Officer
(four numbers)
The Date
Heathrow
(18:57:13)  pretty sure its the "allowed in" stamp
(18:57:18)  but then she changd her mind
(18:57:22)  so she drew a line through it

I'm confused...I have pretty much the same stamp, only above mine I have "leave to enter for six months/employment and recourse to public funds forbidden" (well, and no pen marks)

Does this mean she wasn't actually refused?  Garry, any ideas here?  Is this the first stamp you described, even though it has a line over it instead of a cross?

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(19:00:22) annaonthemoon79: does it have a cross on the stamp?
(19:00:56)  no
(19:01:02) her pen lines makea  cross
(19:02:12)  its the stamp you first mentioned but
(19:02:19)  the only lines going through it are
(19:02:21)  a pen line,
(19:02:29)  its sorta like a cross, but not
(19:02:35)  theres a line going across
(19:02:39) but the line going down is further left,
(19:02:41) not down the middle
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Re: Friend turned away at Heathrow for a visit to BF, needs advice please!
« Reply #83 on: November 08, 2008, 01:04:35 AM »
A stamp with a line through it is a common way or marking 'refused entry'.  If she tried to enter through any European country, and passes by immigration, this will be spotted and she will be bounced.  Again.


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Re: Friend turned away at Heathrow for a visit to BF, needs advice please!
« Reply #84 on: November 08, 2008, 11:44:56 AM »
A stamp with a line through it is a common way or marking 'refused entry'.  If she tried to enter through any European country, and passes by immigration, this will be spotted and she will be bounced.  Again.


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Thanks Vicky.  I'll let her know, since I think she's considering taking the train from Paris or flying into an airport other than Heathrow. 
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