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Re: Borders, Immigration and Citizenship Bill
« Reply #30 on: January 15, 2009, 01:55:09 PM »
The explanatory notes are as long as the Bill itself!

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Re: Borders, Immigration and Citizenship Bill
« Reply #31 on: January 15, 2009, 02:36:54 PM »
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that A, for the whole of the
qualifying period, had a qualifying immigration status based
on A's having a relevant family association;

UGH, UGH, ugh...we ex-students are most certainly being punished!!

However, I do applaude the Home Office's provision here:
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waive the need to fulfil either or both of the requirements
specified in paragraph 3(1)(d) and (e) if the Secretary of State
considers that because of A's age or physical or mental
condition it would be unreasonable to expect A to fulfil that
requirement or those requirements;
Bit of a victory for those disabled persons which would be unable to complete the volunteering requirements.
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Re: Borders, Immigration and Citizenship Bill
« Reply #32 on: January 15, 2009, 02:52:15 PM »
maybe we've talked about this before, but why are they even inventing "probationary citizenship"?  In practice it's nothing more than an extension of a limited leave visa, as benefits are still not allowed.  I really don't understand why they are creating a whole new category instead of simply making people apply for extensions of their existing visa.
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Re: Borders, Immigration and Citizenship Bill
« Reply #33 on: January 15, 2009, 02:53:21 PM »
Government-speak.  Sounds nice.
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Re: Borders, Immigration and Citizenship Bill
« Reply #34 on: January 15, 2009, 03:12:50 PM »
maybe we've talked about this before, but why are they even inventing "probationary citizenship"?  In practice it's nothing more than an extension of a limited leave visa, as benefits are still not allowed.  I really don't understand why they are creating a whole new category instead of simply making people apply for extensions of their existing visa.

They want us to undestand that we need to integrate into the community and prove our worth to the UK.  To a certain extent, thing the promote integration into society are to be lauded and encouraging people to take an active role in their community is admirable, but to beat us with a stick and tell us that essentially it amounts to time off for good behaviour, is insulting.
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Re: Borders, Immigration and Citizenship Bill
« Reply #35 on: January 15, 2009, 03:21:33 PM »
I'm assuming all you experts will be right on top of the advocacy of all this stuff, but as a lowley immigrant who has a way long time to before I become a citizen, or who knows if I'll even be able to in a few years, I want to rally against a bunch of this... So just give the shout on when I should raise my pen and write my MP and I will be MORE than happy to give my voice on the whole thing... 
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Re: Borders, Immigration and Citizenship Bill
« Reply #36 on: January 15, 2009, 03:25:58 PM »
At least what I think we should do, is all those who want to dig through it, dig through it and raise the points we think need addressing.  I am reading all the stuff on the train this evening.  Once we have the list of points we object to, we need to figure out what we think the best plan of attack is, which could be deferring to another group, getting all the layfolks here to write MPs and do other activities and/or make well educated posistion statements and do a press release on them.

Hopefully tomorrow or over the weekend, we can try and start coordinating our advocacy efforts.  Do I hear an amen?  Does everyone who wants to be active have access to the Advocacy section here?
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Re: Borders, Immigration and Citizenship Bill
« Reply #37 on: January 15, 2009, 03:39:58 PM »
Hopefully tomorrow or over the weekend, we can try and start coordinating our advocacy efforts.  Do I hear an amen?  Does everyone who wants to be active have access to the Advocacy section here?

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Re: Borders, Immigration and Citizenship Bill
« Reply #38 on: January 15, 2009, 03:41:41 PM »
add me to the list of people who had this sail completely over their heads.  

Thank goodness for you folks who are willing to decipher it and explain it to the rest of us!
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Re: Borders, Immigration and Citizenship Bill
« Reply #39 on: January 15, 2009, 03:44:57 PM »
Hopefully tomorrow or over the weekend, we can try and start coordinating our advocacy efforts.  Do I hear an amen?  Does everyone who wants to be active have access to the Advocacy section here?

Also KK, if there's a decently organized list of questions from people who are affected, or afraid they might be affected, you can put it together and I'll take it to the emergency meeting next Tuesday and see what the answers are.

And for the Advocacy Team, please remember that it's not just YOU this time, it's a whole lot of Americans who might consider being a spouse in the future.  Some of whom don't even know it yet.  You will need to think on their behalf also.


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Re: Borders, Immigration and Citizenship Bill
« Reply #40 on: January 15, 2009, 03:55:08 PM »
Say, does being active in immigration advocacy count for the active citizenship requirement?  ;D
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Re: Borders, Immigration and Citizenship Bill
« Reply #41 on: January 15, 2009, 03:55:50 PM »
Sign me up...I'll do whatever
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Re: Borders, Immigration and Citizenship Bill
« Reply #42 on: January 15, 2009, 03:58:32 PM »
Say, does being active in immigration advocacy count for the active citizenship requirement?  ;D

Actually that's not a silly question.  I've been trying to get an early reading on it. 




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Re: Borders, Immigration and Citizenship Bill
« Reply #43 on: January 15, 2009, 03:58:53 PM »
Say, does being active in immigration advocacy count for the active citizenship requirement?  ;D

Brilliant! It should count as it's voluntary!!


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Re: Borders, Immigration and Citizenship Bill
« Reply #44 on: January 15, 2009, 04:06:50 PM »
I've been planning on volunteering with a charity that helps asylum seekers- that better bloody count as being active citizenship!

I think immigration advocacy should definitely count. :)
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