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Re: The few, the brave - those of us taking driving lessons right now!
« Reply #30 on: March 31, 2009, 10:34:00 AM »
Okay, talked to DH last night and we're going to go ahead with the driving lessons!  Even though we won't be getting a car for awhile, I really want to have my license, especially since my American license expired last year and I want to be able to drive around when I go home to visit at the end of the year.

We need to save some money first so I probably won't start taking lessons until June...I suppose I can start studying for the theory test, though!
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Re: The few, the brave - those of us taking driving lessons right now!
« Reply #31 on: March 31, 2009, 10:35:15 AM »
Hanger Lane Gyratory (in west London) apparently. 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7140892.stm


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Re: The few, the brave - those of us taking driving lessons right now!
« Reply #32 on: March 31, 2009, 11:08:05 AM »
Okay, talked to DH last night and we're going to go ahead with the driving lessons!  Even though we won't be getting a car for awhile, I really want to have my license, especially since my American license expired last year and I want to be able to drive around when I go home to visit at the end of the year.

We need to save some money first so I probably won't start taking lessons until June...I suppose I can start studying for the theory test, though!

Yep! Start studying now, it's never too soon for that, as it will get one part of the headache out of the way. Some of the road signs and rules of the road are actually the same or similar as US equivalents, but others will be "Huh?" (my US friends are laughing when I tell them  about "pelican," "toucan," and "puffin" crossings!) So you will be ahead of the game if you go online and buy the DSA learner packs there are around, get a UK Highway Code book, and trudge your way through memorizing as much as you can. Studying the actual catalogue of questions, and their correct answers, for the current year will really help you. I think there are something like over 900 possible questions in the data bank from which your actual theory test computer will randomly pick only 50, out of which you must get right 43. I think it's never to early to start studying-up even before you get behind the wheel!  :)
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Re: The few, the brave - those of us taking driving lessons right now!
« Reply #33 on: March 31, 2009, 06:00:25 PM »
my US friends are laughing when I tell them  about "pelican," "toucan," and "puffin" crossings!

And that's not to mention other types which were experimented with and abandoned, like the X-way and the Panda crossing!  The government seems to have a thing about coming up with ridiculously convoluted solutions to the "problem" of light-controlled pedestrian crossings, even when local authorities had already solved the issue in a simple way.

See here for some history:
http://www.cbrd.co.uk/histories/pedestriancrossings/


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Re: The few, the brave - those of us taking driving lessons right now!
« Reply #34 on: March 31, 2009, 07:21:48 PM »
And how did the dreaded roundabout (d)evolve?  Probably lots of binge drinking involved in the Planning Dept... [smiley=clown.gif]


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Re: The few, the brave - those of us taking driving lessons right now!
« Reply #35 on: March 31, 2009, 09:18:27 PM »
I just booked my Theory Test for April 16th!

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Re: The few, the brave - those of us taking driving lessons right now!
« Reply #36 on: March 31, 2009, 09:22:17 PM »
I just booked my Theory Test for April 16th!

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Heheh...  I still f-up all the street signs... and I have no idea what the speed limits are... (I go slow, always, not a speed demon in me!) and I still passed, so I think you'll do just great Mrs R!
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« Reply #37 on: April 01, 2009, 10:12:39 AM »
Heheh...  I still f-up all the street signs... and I have no idea what the speed limits are... (I go slow, always, not a speed demon in me!) and I still passed, so I think you'll do just great Mrs R!

I'm exactly the same re speed (I don't feel comfortable driving as fast as the limit on narrow, twisty roads).  Also, although I passed the theory test, I don't automatically 'see' the signs when I'm driving.  So used to US signs that sometimes I don't register UK ones.  Did you pass the practical test?

Mrs Robinson:  Best of good luck to you with the theory test! I found it very helpful to get a DVD of practice hazard tests.  What was weird was I never passed by very much on the practice tests, but passed the actual test with a large margin (couldn't believe it when I saw my marks). 


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Re: The few, the brave - those of us taking driving lessons right now!
« Reply #38 on: April 01, 2009, 11:28:46 AM »
And how did the dreaded roundabout (d)evolve?  Probably lots of binge drinking involved in the Planning Dept... [smiley=clown.gif] 

You might find this an interesting short read, with notes about British roundabouts and the development of the older-style U.S. traffic circle into the modern roundabout:

http://www.alaskaroundabouts.com/history.html


and I have no idea what the speed limits are...

I'm exactly the same re speed (I don't feel comfortable driving as fast as the limit on narrow, twisty roads). 

One thing to remember about British speed limits is that unless the default limit for the type of road applies there should always be repeater signs every so often.  Two-way open roads are thus always 60 mph maximum unless there are regular repeater signs which lower the limit to 50, 40, etc. (so even if you miss the first sign, you'll still know it's a lower limit).   Built-up areas default to 30 mph unless signs say otherwise.  Again, if you have a larger road through a town where the limit is higher than the default 30, there will be regular repeater signs saying 40, 50, etc. 

So in the absence of signs to the contrary, speed limits are always 30 mph in a "built-up" area, 60 mph on all other two-way roads, and 70 mph on dual carriageways (divided highways), including motorways (lower limits can apply to larger vans, when towing and so on).

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Re: The few, the brave - those of us taking driving lessons right now!
« Reply #39 on: April 01, 2009, 11:44:26 AM »
Paul, its the default ones I can't remember!
I do remember, if its got street lights, its 30, unless sign posted

But I can't remember if something is 60 or 70! Can't get it into my thick skull. Prefer to have it sign-posted so I can remember. 
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Re: The few, the brave - those of us taking driving lessons right now!
« Reply #40 on: April 01, 2009, 12:17:13 PM »
But I can't remember if something is 60 or 70!

Try and remember that it's down to whether or not it's a divided highway.  Two-way traffic = 60 mph, divided with some sort of barrier or median strip = 70 mph.   I'm sure it's confusing that you don't actually see a sign which shows "60" or "70" explicitly, just the "National Speed Limit" sign (white disk with diagonal black bar). 

The reason for that sign is historical.  Before the mid 1960s there was no absolute maximum speed limit on open roads, just the same sort of rule as existed in a number of American states in the past to drive at a speed reasonable and prudent for the conditions.  So originally that sign actually meant "End of speed limit," hence its design.   When the upper limit was introduced in the 1960s, they kept the sign and just changed its meaning (although at one time there were "real" 70 signs to be seen on motorways; I remember them still being around in the 1970s).

The posted limits often seem somewhat illogical and inconsistent, especially in rural areas such as this where you can be driving along a fairly fast, main road which has had its speed limit lowered to 50 mph under one of the accident-prevention schemes, yet the moment you turn onto a narrow, twisty little backlane the first thing you see is the NSL sign putting the limit back to 60 mph!    It's basically because a lower speed limit can be posted only on specific stretches of road when an order has been so made, so anything else is 30 or 60/70 by default.

It's confusing I know, but at least if you know the history it might help to make a little more sense as to why things are the way they are.   :)



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Re: The few, the brave - those of us taking driving lessons right now!
« Reply #41 on: April 01, 2009, 12:22:40 PM »
It's confusing I know, but at least if you know the history it might help to make a little more sense as to why things are the way they are.   :)

Thanks, that is helpful  :)
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Re: The few, the brave - those of us taking driving lessons right now!
« Reply #42 on: April 01, 2009, 02:01:47 PM »
Actually, it's not just the change in speed limit signs I have a problem with...they're usually straight forward.  It's other signs that are not always familiar.  I was able to identify them on the theory test but don't always notice or register their meaning in my consciousness whilst driving. [smiley=confused.gif]


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Re: The few, the brave - those of us taking driving lessons right now!
« Reply #43 on: April 01, 2009, 02:39:50 PM »
Just got back from my last lesson.  I rocked the reverse around the corner today.  Feeling good about tomorrow's test.  Fingers crossed until about 12:30 tomorrow!


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Re: The few, the brave - those of us taking driving lessons right now!
« Reply #44 on: April 01, 2009, 02:51:10 PM »
Just got back from my last lesson.  I rocked the reverse around the corner today.  Feeling good about tomorrow's test.  Fingers crossed until about 12:30 tomorrow!

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