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Re: The few, the brave - those of us taking driving lessons right now!
« Reply #420 on: September 14, 2009, 06:23:13 PM »
If you've driven in the states before driving here is a breeze.  Well it will suck if you don't know how to drive a manual.  I'd suggest an automatic, unless you can't afford petrol.  The written test is a breeze, because the test questions are the same ones you see on the study dvd.  If you fail the written test first time, you're an idiot.  Actual Driving test is not any harder, just longer.  My wife and I both passed first time (manual for me, auto for wifey).  I even passed my motorcycle test first time here, in torrential rain even.  So take a few lessons and you'll be fine.  I'd suggest driving here on your american license at least a few months though before you take lessons.

It may have been a breeze for you, but everyone is different, and many people, including myself found it very difficult. Many people fail the theory test, and I can assure you, they would be pretty unhappy at being called idiots. Just think about how others might feel before you post.


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Re: The few, the brave - those of us taking driving lessons right now!
« Reply #421 on: September 14, 2009, 10:38:35 PM »
Tips for passing the hazard perception???

I'm taking it tomorrow.  Most of the trail runs I get a 4 or 5 out of 5, but occasionally I get a 1 or 2 and have no idea why.  Maybe I'm over clicking, but it's hard to see exactly what stuff is.  Seems like a pretty flawed way to judge perception - just because you are alerted to something that turns out to be nothing - doesn't mean you aren't aware of potential hazards.

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Re: The few, the brave - those of us taking driving lessons right now!
« Reply #422 on: September 14, 2009, 11:30:21 PM »
If you've driven in the states before driving here is a breeze.  Well it will suck if you don't know how to drive a manual.  I'd suggest an automatic, unless you can't afford petrol.  The written test is a breeze, because the test questions are the same ones you see on the study dvd.  If you fail the written test first time, you're an idiot.  Actual Driving test is not any harder, just longer.  My wife and I both passed first time (manual for me, auto for wifey).  I even passed my motorcycle test first time here, in torrential rain even.  So take a few lessons and you'll be fine.  I'd suggest driving here on your american license at least a few months though before you take lessons.

It may have been a breeze for you, but everyone is different, and many people, including myself found it very difficult. Many people fail the theory test, and I can assure you, they would be pretty unhappy at being called idiots. Just think about how others might feel before you post.

I agree with racheeeee.

As the majority of posts on this thread have already testified, in general many people possessing many long years of safe, confident and fully competent driving in the US find it very difficult and even initially frightening to perform the very real brain-switch of driving in the UK, and that's not to be put down.

Not only is there a brain function switcheroo in which not only the road but the vehicle is mirror image to what one is used to, but signs, road markings and even lane stripes can be sufficiently different as to cause not just confusion but even fatal mistakes in rare cases.

To some it may feel like a breeze, but anecdotal evidence points to that being a minority fortunate few. It seems that most find it at least initially very daunting to accustom themselves to driving here. Conditions can be very, very different -- roads are narrower, more organic, junctions are not always neatly "grid" and can be confusing, roundabouts are virtually non existent in the US.

Ive heard it said more than once, by friends of mine, that in fact it's easier for a UK-experienced driver to cope with driving on US roads than vice versa, not least because US roadways in most places are usually on a grid-plan, easier to negotiate than the ancient-origin roadways of the UK, wider, and so many other reasons. The US roadways were purpose-built in a young country, for driving convenience. UK roads were not.

There are many elements that make the US to UK switch far from a breeze for most, and that's in an automatic, not just a manual. Intelligent and capable people here have found or are finding the experience daunting, and nc73's post manages to crap on that without justification. Nobody is an idiot for failing either part of the test, theory or practical. It's a pretty exacting test, famously so, both parts. Give respect to those who have to get through it.

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Re: The few, the brave - those of us taking driving lessons right now!
« Reply #423 on: September 15, 2009, 08:55:34 AM »
Got my first lesson tonight - wish me luck!!!  ;D I'm not nervous at all, actually, just excited. But that might change once I get in the car.  :P
Studied the CD-Rom last night and failed my mock theory test by a few, but passed Hazard Perception by a few. I passed the quiz on signs. My theory test isn't until 17 October, though, so I've got plenty of time to study. Hoping to have my licence by the end of the year (they wouldn't fail me at Christmas time, would they?  :P)


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« Reply #424 on: September 15, 2009, 09:56:07 AM »
(they wouldn't fail me at Christmas time, would they?  :P)

Let's hope not!  ;D I, for one, am hoping that they won't fail me while we're having such a glorious Indian Summer.  That would really put a damper on the sunshine!


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« Reply #425 on: September 15, 2009, 12:20:02 PM »
I was right! The sun DID help! I passed! a more detailed look tonight when I get home from work!
THANK YOU--I could never have made it without this thread!


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« Reply #426 on: September 15, 2009, 12:49:13 PM »
I was right! The sun DID help! I passed! a more detailed look tonight when I get home from work!
THANK YOU--I could never have made it without this thread!

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« Reply #427 on: September 15, 2009, 02:49:23 PM »
I was right! The sun DID help! I passed! a more detailed look tonight when I get home from work!
THANK YOU--I could never have made it without this thread!

You're welcome.  :)  Well done for passing the test!!
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Re: The few, the brave - those of us taking driving lessons right now!
« Reply #428 on: September 15, 2009, 02:55:07 PM »
Tips for passing the hazard perception???

I'm taking it tomorrow.  Most of the trail runs I get a 4 or 5 out of 5, but occasionally I get a 1 or 2 and have no idea why.  Maybe I'm over clicking, but it's hard to see exactly what stuff is.  Seems like a pretty flawed way to judge perception - just because you are alerted to something that turns out to be nothing - doesn't mean you aren't aware of potential hazards.

Anyone got any suggestions?

How did your theory test go, Hollyberry?


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Re: The few, the brave - those of us taking driving lessons right now!
« Reply #429 on: September 15, 2009, 07:12:03 PM »
Well, I'm officially amongst you! Just had my first lesson. I did ok, but I did actually break down in tears in the middle of my lesson because I got so nervous - I was doing great, and then I put the car in the wrong gear and he popped in the clutch on his side, and was telling me to put it in gear, but I couldn't find the clutch (mine was pressed in because he was pressing it down on his side) so I stepped on the brake instead and got all confused and stopped the car in the middle of the street. So then we pulled off the road a few moments later and I started crying because I was nervous and didn't know what happened, then I was crying because I was embarrassed over crying! :( He was so nice, though, and I managed to pull myself back together and get back on the road and did much better the rest of my lesson. He sent me home with a practice steering wheel to practice the push-pull method instead of the hand over hand steering, and I'm going to study up on my theory test and stuff this week, too. I am sure after a few lessons I will be cruising much more smoothly.  :)


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Re: The few, the brave - those of us taking driving lessons right now!
« Reply #430 on: September 15, 2009, 07:19:19 PM »
Congrats to those who recently passed - yay!

Well done, Jewlz, for jumping in, tears & all.  :-*  I'd probably have freaked out too!  I took to the push-pull steering quite quickly (but still do a bit of both) - it was one thing I didn't struggle with too much, as opposed to other stuff that I did struggle with (like a stubborn resistance to using the handbrake).  :P
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« Reply #431 on: September 15, 2009, 08:17:44 PM »
Congrats Jewlz, I burst into tears right after I got back from my first lesson, just stress and anxiety I think.  Good luck! And good job!

to recap the practical I just took: I ended up with 20 hours of instruction (ten two-hour lessons) and one "mock" practical.  I appreciated the mock practical because it showed me how much easier the test was than my lessons (maybe just because it was only 40 minutes!) and gave me a chance to drive w/ a stranger in the car. It really helped the stress the night before, and I think it helped me perform better on the test because my nerves weren't as bad!
The test itself was quick and simple.  I *really* exaggerated my mirror and blind spot observations and, luckily, did the turn in the road and parking and NOT the backing around a corner. It worked really well. I am REALLY glad I took all of those lessons. I'm sure I "could" have passed the test with much less, but I was learning manual as well, and my husband really encouraged me to take as much time as I needed to feel safe.

I really have to repeat how great that this thread has been for me. I really appreciated being able to come here and talk about the stress, fear, and successes I had--especially those moments when I couldn't understand why I went from competent and calm to terrified and nervous!

Thanks guys! and good luck! And if anyone needs a theory test practice DVD, let me know!


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Re: The few, the brave - those of us taking driving lessons right now!
« Reply #432 on: September 15, 2009, 08:54:57 PM »
On my practical, I was happy to get the turn in the road, and backing around a corner...because I kept botching the parallel parking!  And I'm normally a good parallel parker in US driving (right side of road).  But backing around a corner - I finally got that down pretty good...after my instructor told me to think of it like sections of an orange & I memorised the reference points, etc.  So it's just something different, IMO, that presents a challenge for every individual.  :P
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Re: The few, the brave - those of us taking driving lessons right now!
« Reply #433 on: September 15, 2009, 09:02:55 PM »
No kidding! I was driving my instructor crazy because I would be able to back around the corner one day and then totally incompetent the next. Poor guy. Luckily, living in the Bay Area in California permanently fine-tuned my parallel parking abilities. (Which was good because some ridiculous person PULLED IN BEHIND ME during my  test--you know how they give you two cars worth? I was about 1/2 way in and this guy just screeched in behind me and parked. So annoying).

I agree--I think the main thing I've learned through all of this is that whatever you can do to make it LESS stressful, you should do, and that it's really great to relax and just try to learn at the pace that is most comfortable.   


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Re: The few, the brave - those of us taking driving lessons right now!
« Reply #434 on: September 15, 2009, 09:32:21 PM »
How did your theory test go, Hollyberry?

 ;D  50 out of 50 on the multiple choice, 55 out of 75 on the hazard perception!

I studied the CD-rom over the last few days, ran through all the possible questions, made notes on what I didn't know and then took a bunch of practice tests.  I actually never have looked at the highway code.

The way the hazard perception part is done aggravates me, but I passed so I'm not going to stress out about it.  Most of the scenarios were are on the CD-rom, and I still don't understand WHY I do better on some than others - but I guess it averages out.

Onto the driving bit, which I feel much better about.  Without having driven, I've absorbed the whole left side stuff and it's all as instinctual as it was before the world got turned upside down.

Except for the having to learn manual - which I can imagine being worse before it gets better!   :-X

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