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Re: Homemade Pizza
« Reply #15 on: May 01, 2009, 10:01:42 PM »
Stand back! I'm a pizza professional! (Made the stuff for a living for a year in college at an award-winning small shop).

Actually, all the hints and recipes that came before look great. No quibbles.

We did a deep-dish pie, and the only ingredient we didn't make ourselves was the raw dough. Any decent white or wheat bread dough will do. Sadly, they don't sell it in the supermarkets here, but any way you want to make dough is good. Breadmaker is fine.

One of our secrets was pre-cooking the dough for ten minutes. That prevented it getting soggy on the bottom, which is especially important with veggie pizzas (they're watery).

In a 9" pan that you wipe out but never wash (actually, I like to use an iron skillet -- it does a fabulous job) press the raw dough into the sides until it covers the bottom and has a slight lip. It really helps if the dough is room temperature (but not warm or it gets kind of liquid).

Cook this dough by itself for ten minutes at 450 (gas mark 8). It'll just slightly start to brown. Press it down in the middle, if it poofed up. You can then go on to make pizza, or put it aside for as long as you like. We would  cook all our dough in the morning and refrigerate it for the evening shift.

Our sauce recipe was unremarkable. It was like spaghetti sauce, but maybe a little thicker. These days -- when making pizza is a bit more spontaneous -- I'll just cut up a nice big tomato and cook it with spices for half an hour before I want to make pizza. I like mine with lots of black pepper.

Our second secret was cooking the ingredients UNDER the cheese. So it was pre-cooked dough, a thin layer of sauce (too much, and your topping slide around), toppings and then a solid layer of half and half mozarella and cheddar.

Cook this in the same gasmark 8 oven for another ten minutes (more or less, depending on whether you like the cheese browned.

To get it out of the pan and onto the cutting board, my last professional tip: slide the knife under the pie and then move then pan out from under the pizza.

This was in the early 1980s, so we made some of the first pies with exotic ingredients. It sounds pretty ordinary now, but the idea of carrots or walnuts on pizza was extraordinary then. Raisins taste okay, but swell up like ticks (ulch). I was night manager, so I made underlings handle the anchovies. Our vegetarian specials were three inches thick and had to be drained of excess fluid before serving.

In conclusion, OH HOLY GEEZ I AM SO HUNGRY FOR PIZZA AT THIS MOMENT!!!


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Re: Homemade Pizza
« Reply #16 on: May 01, 2009, 10:12:38 PM »
Elliejean posted a pizza dough recipe on the what's for tea thread a while back, but not sure if it can be found. Anyway, she seems to make pizza and calzones a lot, so maybe she will chime in soon and give some advice.

Marykate, that pizza looks amazing!!!  :o I'm drooling over here!


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Re: Homemade Pizza
« Reply #17 on: May 01, 2009, 11:00:40 PM »
Hmmm - it talks about using it for 'bread, cookies and pastries' but I would think it has too much gluten for a cake.  Cake flour is also finely milled but would have a very low protein/gluten content - no more than 6-8%, whereas the Molino Caputo Tipo 00 Pizza Flour has a gluten content of about 11%-12%.  But why not try it & see - maybe it's not enough difference to really matter?  :)

Interestingly enough, I found this discussion of trying to 'make your own' cake flour here in the UK:

http://amerrierworld.wordpress.com/2007/10/28/a-question-of-flour/

Thanks! I really love to bake, and often I find myself comparing my cakes with cake mix (I know I shouldn't do it) but my last batch of cupcakes weren't cakey enough for me, they were delish, but a bit muffiney for myself. My friends loved them, but I wasn't sure. So I was wondering about a lighter flour...I will check out this thread and see how I go. Thanks.


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Re: Homemade Pizza
« Reply #18 on: May 01, 2009, 11:20:40 PM »
We make crispy pan pizzas with an amazing light, airy texture... Our secret is to make the dough much wetter than you feel you should...

Also if you want thicker crust, let the dough rise in the pan. Oh, the texture, the texture, the texture....
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Re: Homemade Pizza
« Reply #19 on: May 02, 2009, 09:17:05 AM »
I buy my 00 flour at Sainsburys.  Tesco also carries it - I think the brand is called McDougalls?

Great!  I didn't know they sold it in the grocery store - I don't get out much.  :P  I checked our cupboard and we do have the Molino Caputo Tipo 00 Flour - Steve got it from a local deli/specialist shop.

Thanks! I really love to bake, and often I find myself comparing my cakes with cake mix (I know I shouldn't do it) but my last batch of cupcakes weren't cakey enough for me, they were delish, but a bit muffiney for myself. My friends loved them, but I wasn't sure. So I was wondering about a lighter flour...I will check out this thread and see how I go. Thanks.

It seems that the woman on that link I gave is providing a solution to exactly what you are talking about!  Would love to know what your results are.  :)
« Last Edit: May 02, 2009, 09:19:16 AM by Mrs Robinson »
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Re: Homemade Pizza
« Reply #20 on: May 02, 2009, 09:41:54 AM »
I nominate this for most mouth-watering thread of the year.

We make our pizzas the same way Mr and MrsRobinson make theirs, but we're a thin crust family all the way.

We use a stone from Pampered Chef.



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Re: Homemade Pizza
« Reply #21 on: May 02, 2009, 09:44:15 AM »
Ooooh, pizza stones reminded me, I saw a pizza stone at Homesense (you know, like TK Maxx, or Homegoods) and it was only £12.99...

That sounds like a good deal!


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Re: Homemade Pizza
« Reply #22 on: May 02, 2009, 09:53:31 AM »
We make pizza here too - every saturday. 

I make the sauce with onions, garlic, olives with pimiento, a bit of red wine, some honey, italian herbs and pureed tomatoes.  Simmer for a few hours and puree before using.   It's fab.  I freeze it in ice cube trays so we have it on hand. 

We make the dough with beer and lots of olive oil.  And I also vote for a very hot oven. I generally brush the crust with olive oil before I put it in the oven.   

I've never used a stone because I've never had the proper set up, i.e. a peel.  I can't seem to keep the temperature of the stone while getting the pizza on it.   We use the pizza pans with holes in them.  It seems to work well for us. 

My favourite pizza ever is pepperoni, sauteed mushrooms, roasted peppers, anchovies and olives.  Hmmmm.... maybe I'll make that tonight.

 
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Re: Homemade Pizza
« Reply #23 on: May 02, 2009, 09:58:26 AM »
Ooooh, pizza stones reminded me, I saw a pizza stone at Homesense (you know, like TK Maxx, or Homegoods) and it was only £12.99...

That sounds like a good deal!

I'd snag it!  That is a good deal.

I got mine as a gift from my sister years ago when I was living in Denver and brought it over.

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Re: Homemade Pizza
« Reply #24 on: May 02, 2009, 03:02:29 PM »
I'm thinking about getting a pizza stone now that our guest has washed the back of our creuset with dish soap.  ::) Is a peel likewise mandatory to use it, or can I substitute something else?
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Re: Homemade Pizza
« Reply #25 on: May 02, 2009, 04:15:21 PM »
Elliejean posted a pizza dough recipe on the what's for tea thread a while back, but not sure if it can be found. Anyway, she seems to make pizza and calzones a lot, so maybe she will chime in soon and give some advice.

Marykate, that pizza looks amazing!!!  :o I'm drooling over here!
Don't have a lot to add other than I'm hungry  - all these tips are good.  Do you want a dough recipe with cup measurements and such?  I tend to make the dough in the breadmaker too, just for ease of cleanup, but I sometimes make it by hand if I can be bothered.  We tend to have calzones for dinner rather than pizzas simply because it's neater and at the moment I'm often eating over a feeding baby!  I so want a stone.  Nothing else works quite as well for the right crispiness - I love thin crust too.  But I make do with a preheated inverted cookie sheet, which works fine. 
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Re: Homemade Pizza
« Reply #26 on: May 02, 2009, 05:22:03 PM »
I'm trying to make a deep dish tonight :) I've just blind baked the crust which I didn't realise you had to do, last time I did it, it was very soggy, so perhaps that is the key :)


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Re: Homemade Pizza
« Reply #27 on: May 02, 2009, 08:20:47 PM »
We make the dough with beer and lots of olive oil.  And I also vote for a very hot oven. I generally brush the crust with olive oil before I put it in the oven.   

Could you post the recipe for this?  It sounds really good.  I would never have thought of adding beer to pizza dough. 
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Re: Homemade Pizza
« Reply #28 on: May 03, 2009, 04:27:41 AM »
Don't have a lot to add other than I'm hungry  - all these tips are good.  Do you want a dough recipe with cup measurements and such?  I tend to make the dough in the breadmaker too, just for ease of cleanup, but I sometimes make it by hand if I can be bothered.  We tend to have calzones for dinner rather than pizzas simply because it's neater and at the moment I'm often eating over a feeding baby!  I so want a stone.  Nothing else works quite as well for the right crispiness - I love thin crust too.  But I make do with a preheated inverted cookie sheet, which works fine. 

Yes, I'd like a dough recipe with cup measurements.  I've got a breadmaker and would use that to make the dough.


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Re: Homemade Pizza
« Reply #29 on: May 03, 2009, 03:37:07 PM »
I make a whole wheat crust since I have the flour on hand.  No recipe/measurements, I do basically what I do for whole wheat bread, just less sugar, no molasses, and I add olive oil. 
For the sauce I'll do either a homemade pasta type sauce (tomatoes, onion, garlic, herbs, etc), or a homemade bar b que sauce. 
For toppings, pretty much anything goes...
I don't have a pizza stone, I just use  my Pampered Chef stoneware baking pans. 
They may not  authentic, or the prettiest, but my family likes them. 


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