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Re: Visitor visa
« Reply #15 on: July 20, 2004, 04:28:50 PM »
  If it wasn't clear (as indicated by others posting in to this thread) you will need to take note that the 2nd rule I cited (although applicable) ...

I'm not trying to be thick here, but how exactly does the 2nd rule apply?  If I'm reading correctly, his/her study won't be completed within the period of the visit.  Therefore, the rule doesn't apply.  Surely studying for 6 months (if he/she is allowed to stay 6 months), leaving for a couple of days (without having finished the courses), and returning for another 6 months (not guaranteed entry, to pick up studies where left off) would be a violation of the rule?  If I were the IO, and had to make a determination based on the 2nd rule, I'd send the kid packing...which is ultimately what nearlynaked should be working to avoid...therefore he/she must do this in as straightforward a manner as is possible.

Seems to me that the main issue here is that nearlynaked is wanting to take a course he/she can't possibly finish in the time allowed by a visitor's visa.  Therefore, he/she needs to stay longer (get a student visa...and becoming a full time student if neccessary), or not study at all (just enjoy the visit).

Nearlynaked, what are you planning on studying?  And where will you be taking the courses?  If you're heading to a university, I'd really suggest you consider taking enough classes to qualify as a full-time student and apply for a student visa.  An added bonus to that is that you'd be able to work up to 20 hours a week...thus supplementing whatever you're planning on living on once you're over here.  It'd just make things easier all around and save you some headache and worry.
« Last Edit: July 20, 2004, 04:39:17 PM by lolabola »


Re: Visitor visa
« Reply #16 on: July 20, 2004, 07:23:15 PM »
I'm not trying to be thick here, but how exactly does the 2nd rule apply?  If I'm reading correctly, his/her study won't be completed within the period of the visit.  Therefore, the rule doesn't apply. 

A rule applies if it has relevance or a valid connection to the individual's circumstances or intent.  It's a rule about part-time, and he/she's intending to pursue part-time, so the rule applies.   Fiance rules, for example, would not apply because they are not connected to his/her circumstances.  It could also be said that asylum rules would not apply, and that au pair rules would not apply and so on.   

He/she is a visitor intending to follow a part-time course.  So the applicable rules are those that govern visitors along with the rule about part-time cousework.  They are the relevant rules and have a valid connection to his/her circumstances.

If a rule applies, that means the IO will take it into consideration - it does NOT mean that the person will be successful in qualifying.  Lots of people have visa applications refused under the rules that apply to their circumstances.   And it would be rather strange to hear of a refusal based upon rules that did not apply. 

It's especially appropriate in his/her case because it's the *only* rule that applies to visitors taking part-time courses.  And I've been surprised to see opinion here to the contrary.   If not the rules for visitors/part-time courses, which rules would actually apply?
« Last Edit: July 20, 2004, 07:26:52 PM by garry »


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Re: Visitor visa
« Reply #17 on: July 21, 2004, 11:58:37 AM »
Thanks Garry!

You helped calm my nerves.
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Well, obviously from the original poster's reaction they got the feeling it's "okay."  And that's the important thing as they're the one asking the question - and the one taking the risks when they get to Immigration... :-\\\\
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Re: Visitor visa
« Reply #18 on: July 21, 2004, 12:13:56 PM »
I have removed certain posts and am now locking this thread.  Any further questions and clarifications should be exchanged in PM.

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