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On/Off peak switches
« on: September 21, 2009, 09:58:20 PM »
I'm getting a little crazed with all these switches in my new apartment (second night here). Today, after a long long day of runnin around I ended up taking a horrid cold shower because I hadn't put on the water heater switch (on peak).

Okay, so what's the deal with these switches. Do I leave the "off peak" ones on all the time (these are my heaters)? Do I only switch the "on peak" ones when I need them and I believe fits in the range of "peak" hours?

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Re: On/Off peak switches
« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2009, 11:30:04 PM »
There are several different off-peak tariffs available, but Economy 7 is the most common, so named because it provides power at a cheaper rate for 7 hours each night (normally midnight to 7 a.m. GMT, but sometimes there can be a half hour variation either way).

Storage heaters should be wired to a separate electrical distribution panel, which has power turned on only during the off-peak period.  So you can leave the wall switches for those on throughout the period of the year that you need heat, since the elements will only be running when the timeswitch cuts in at around midnight (or 1 a.m. during BST). 

Electrical water heating with Economy 7 can have several different arrangements.  Sometimes there is a single element, and the system is powered from the 24-hour supply, but through its own timer so that it can be set to come on overnight during the off-peak period to provide you with a cylinder full of hot water in the morning.   You can also set the timer to give a short boost during the day (typically late afternoon) at the normal rate.   There will normally be some sort of manual override to let you boost the water at any time (sometimes just switched on & off completely manually, sometimes a boost button which gives an hour or so and then automatically switches off again).

In some Economy 7 heating systems the water cylinder has two elements, one wired to the off-peak supply the same as the storage heaters so that it comes on automatically at the correct times, the other wired through a switch to the regular 24-hour supply to provide you with a manual boost. 

There are two or three other variants which can be found, so we'd need to know more about the particular system to be specific.

The other tariffs provide different rates and times (e.g. Economy 10 is basically Economy 7 plus another 3 hours at reduced rates during the day), but the basic principle is broadly similar. 
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Re: On/Off peak switches
« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2009, 07:52:25 PM »
Dear Paul,
Thanks for explaining in such detail. Ithink I'm understanding this a little better now.

But, I have one very basic problem: no hot water. I switched the ON peak button on a couple hours before my nighttime shower and, for the third night in a row, I ran out of hot water while showering. Should I be turning the switch on and off or should I just keep it on for a while? I moved in a few days ago so perhaps I need it to heat up for a while? I don't know.

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Re: On/Off peak switches
« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2009, 09:21:43 PM »
I switched the ON peak button on a couple hours before my nighttime shower and, for the third night in a row, I ran out of hot water while showering.

Two hours should be quite sufficient time to get a full cylinder of hot water if everything is working properly, even if starting from stone cold. 

Are you sure you're using the right switch to boost during the daytime period?   There are so many different controllers in use and different water-heating arrangements that it's easy to get it wrong if you're not familiar with the system.  Any chance of a picture or two?

Failing that (and assuming you're not taking hour-long showers!  ;) ), it could be a problem with the thermostat or a very scaled-up heating element (pretty much all of eastern England has quite hard water).
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Re: On/Off peak switches
« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2009, 07:58:21 PM »
Arrgghhhh...another shower with dwindling hot water. I'm so cold.

I don't know how to upload the photos here. Help!

The heater man came by and said I should keep the OFF peak switch on all the time, and turn on the ON peak 1/2 hour before I take a shower. I don't seem to have a problem in the day (lots of hot water), but between 7-8pm, when I take my evening shower (and try to wash my hair), the water goes every single time.

Of course, I could change my whole routine and wash my hair in the morning but that may mean waking up at 5am! I don't know how much longer I can live like this. I'm freezing!

Z.A. :(


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Re: On/Off peak switches
« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2009, 08:58:06 PM »
I don't know how to upload the photos here. Help!

You need to have them uploaded to a publicly accessible server and then use a link between [ img ] and [ /img ] tags (without the spaces).    I'll PM you my e-mail address for if you'd like to just send them to me directly, and I'll add them into the thread for reference.

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The heater man came by and said I should keep the OFF peak switch on all the time, and turn on the ON peak 1/2 hour before I take a shower. I don't seem to have a problem in the day (lots of hot water), but between 7-8pm, when I take my evening shower (and try to wash my hair), the water goes every single time.

It sounds as though for whatever reason you're running out of hot water and the boost you're giving with the on-peak supply isn't enough to replenish it.  Are you using an especially large amount of water during the day? 

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