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Re: US: Christopher Columbus Was a Bad Guy
« Reply #90 on: October 18, 2009, 11:45:37 AM »
I wonder what those same schools were teaching about when man realized that the Earth is not the center of the universe around which everything else revolves?



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Re: US: Christopher Columbus Was a Bad Guy
« Reply #91 on: October 18, 2009, 03:49:52 PM »
I wonder what those same schools were teaching about when man realized that the Earth is not the center of the universe around which everything else revolves?





You've got that a little wrong. It's the United States that the Earth revolves around. ;)
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Re: US: Christopher Columbus Was a Bad Guy
« Reply #92 on: October 18, 2009, 04:46:43 PM »
You've got that a little wrong. It's the United States that the Earth revolves around. ;)

Geesh, Paul, have to agree with Gotta.  We don't call it the world, as in 'I'm being posted back to the world' for nufin.  ;)
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Re: US: Christopher Columbus Was a Bad Guy
« Reply #93 on: October 18, 2009, 06:30:40 PM »
Take for example the fact that we're told Columbus's journey proved the earth was round...

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Re: US: Christopher Columbus Was a Bad Guy
« Reply #94 on: October 18, 2009, 11:58:20 PM »
Wait a minute, the world isn't flat??  OMG!!!   ??? ??? ???


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Re: US: Christopher Columbus Was a Bad Guy
« Reply #95 on: October 19, 2009, 12:54:28 AM »
I learnt that from Peabody's Improbable History!  ;D

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« Reply #96 on: October 19, 2009, 01:15:39 AM »
Wait a minute, the world isn't flat??  OMG!!!   ??? ??? ???

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Re: US: Christopher Columbus Was a Bad Guy
« Reply #97 on: October 19, 2009, 11:08:10 AM »
But then we see this distortion of the truth happening in much more modern times as well, and in some ways it's far more worrying when the historical truth is still relatively recent, still well within living memory of many people. 


True....Winston Churchill is another example. A great wartime leader but look at his peacetime actions, particularly sending armed troops to fire on striking miners.
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Re: US: Christopher Columbus Was a Bad Guy
« Reply #98 on: October 19, 2009, 11:11:45 AM »
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I wonder what those same schools were teaching about when man realized that the Earth is not the center of the universe around which everything else revolves?

Uh, some places are still teaching that. They're called churches.
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Re: US: Christopher Columbus Was a Bad Guy
« Reply #99 on: October 19, 2009, 12:13:41 PM »
Uh, some places are still teaching that. They're called churches.

Uh, not my church.


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« Reply #100 on: October 19, 2009, 12:58:02 PM »
Your church doesn't teach that humans are the ultimate creation of god in his image and in fact the whole point of creation?
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Re: US: Christopher Columbus Was a Bad Guy
« Reply #101 on: October 19, 2009, 01:08:04 PM »
Your church doesn't teach that humans are the ultimate creation of god in his image and in fact the whole point of creation?

My church teaches that humans are a creation of God in his image and are a part of creation, not the ultimate creation and not the whole point of creation. But, my church doesn't teach creationism either. I'm sure some churches do teach what you suggest, but it's only fair to point out that not all churches do.


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« Reply #102 on: October 19, 2009, 01:16:16 PM »
My church teaches that humans are a creation of God in his image and are a part of creation, not the ultimate creation and not the whole point of creation. But, my church doesn't teach creationism either. I'm sure some churches do teach what you suggest, but it's only fair to point out that not all churches do.

The church I went to in high school taught evolution and the big bang.. even touched on string theory as all apart of God's design... it was quite awesome.


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« Reply #103 on: October 19, 2009, 01:18:32 PM »
Pretty sure I didn't say all churches.

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My church teaches that humans are a creation of God in his image and are a part of creation
That is creationism. Doesn't mean it's young-earth creationism, but it's still creationism. Some churches go with the 'evolution is true for all but humans, who were created', some go with '"microevolution" is true, but god created the major groups of animals and there is no common ancestor', some go with 'evolution is true, but humans were its purpose and god inserted the soul at some mysterious point', and some go with 'evolution is true, but god started it off and maybe helped it along at times with perhaps the ultimate goal of humans'. These are all varying degrees of creationism, with the latter two generally called 'theistic evolution' to be more polite.

I'll concede that astronomically speaking, very few people still teach/believe that the earth is at the centre of the universe, but metaphorically (or should that be metaphysically?) speaking it's still widely taught/believed that the earth is the centre of 'creation'.
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Re: US: Christopher Columbus Was a Bad Guy
« Reply #104 on: October 19, 2009, 01:32:19 PM »
My church teaches that the book of Genesis is a story that was written as a way to start the bible.

I think my main beef is that you're saying that churches teach that humans were the main purpose of either creationism or evolution and I honestly don't think my church ever taught us that.

And no, you didn't say all churches, but you didn't say some churches either.


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