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Re: Books you can't bloody stand...
« Reply #135 on: April 09, 2005, 03:40:59 AM »
I've heard about it. Apparently, it states all the things women don't want to acknowledge (and I'm sure we've all, at some point or another, tried to optimistically second-guess men, hoping for the best). The author basically says that if a man likes you, he'll call you, and if he doesn't, he's not that interested (whereas women tend to hope for a better explanation--and we've all at some point done this and/or spent a long time on the phone listening to confused friends trying to figure a man out). There has to be another reason (other than his not being into you) that he hasn't called--he's afraid of commitment, hasn't gotten over the ex, has been really busy at work, isn't good at expressing his feelings, etc.). It's written by a man, and I caught the tail end of an interview with the author--what he said was just common sense. (And for the men on this site, it works both ways--if a woman says she'll get back to you when it comes to confirming a date, the interpretation is--"I want to see if anything better comes up, first." If she shies away from kissing, much less anything more physical, repeatedly, it's not because she's a "timid little bunny"--you just don't turn her on. In my own experience, I went on a date with a man once (not even a date, really, just a "get together for drinks" deal, and he clearly missed all clues that I wasn't interested in pursuing anything--I think men are thicker than women when it comes to reading people. It was a Friday night, yet I wanted to call it a night after an hour or so. I had Caller ID (a little gadget with a screen you could get from the telephone company for an extra $10 or so a month that displayed the listed name and number for incoming calls--a great way to screen calls), and the same guy started calling and hanging up 15 or 20 times a day. That went on for a week (whether I was actually home or not) before I finally picked up the phone and said, "I see you've called me several times"--understatement of the CENTURY--and he said he'd called only twice since our date. "Hmm, that's funny. My Caller ID shows differently." :) Men also seem to mistake a woman's being polite and maintaining some eye contact during a conversation as her being really into him--no, it's called being polite.

Anyway, that book sounds interesting--it's obviously written for singles. I have five brothers, and it was always very clear if (and how much) they were interested in a woman. They'd talk very openly to me about it. I was often amazed at the women who just didn't get that they weren't interested: calling them all the time, dropping by unexpectedly, calling me to get advice--how do you tell another woman that she's only hurting herself by pursuing things?--etc. I was amazed at the lack of pride. Again, men do the same things sometimes.

Another good book (and as corny as the title sounds): "Women Who Love Too Much." If you've grown up in a dysfunctional family and/or found yourself repeating patterns in your relationships (such as getting involved with an alcoholic/drug addict/porno addict/etc., and/or someone who takes but doesn't give, and/or someone emotionally or physically abusive, and/or someone someone who cheats on you, etc., it's a must-read). Again, a majority of people, both men and women, have probably had an unhappy relationship with someone due to one or more of the factors listed. The thing that should cause concern is if you find yourself repeating the pattern (same issues, just a different name and face).

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Re: Books you can't bloody stand...
« Reply #136 on: April 09, 2005, 09:13:35 AM »
Back to the topic, here's another one I couldn't bloody stand:

'The Unbearable Lightness of Being' by Milan Kundera. 

Tomaz and Tereza turn a one-night stand into a marriage.  Tomaz philanders around on Tereza for ages and she puts up w/it.  Then Tereza has one brief affair.  Then they both die in a car accident and by that point you won't care.


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Re: Books you can't bloody stand...
« Reply #137 on: April 09, 2005, 09:37:27 AM »
'The Unbearable Lightness of Being' by Milan Kundera. 

I haven't read the book, but the movie is on my "movies you can't blood stand" list. Hey! Do I sense another thread developing!?
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Re: Books you can't bloody stand...
« Reply #138 on: November 05, 2005, 04:05:11 AM »
I saw the Sex and the City episode where the "He's just not that into you" phrase was coined and wanted to read the book. A friend got a copy from a coworker who passed it to her after my friend was having questions whether her boyfriend wanted to do the whole marriage and family thing. It was amusing and many points very true... but halfway through the book I realized I was reading a "self help" book... not that there is anything wrong with it  ;)

How has no one mentioned the obvious?? Oprah Club books!!! Before she started the classics, many were so horrendous they made you want to slit your own wrists! They are all the same... death and human misery.

I quite enjoyed The Celestine Prophecy... although it took 3 attempts to get through the first few chapters and some of the chapters were bad, but other than that it was interesting.

Dan Brown's books may be crap but just look how many people picked up a book to see what it was all about. I am curious to see the movie... hopefully just one!

Suzanne, your description of James Patterson's writing was right on... worse yet are the made for TV movies that come from them.

Here are a few of mine from my years with no electricity/entertainment in rural Kenya...

The Hitchiker's Guide to the Universe- Douglas Adams (didn't get it)

I Dreamed of Africa plus her other memoirs of her life in Kenya- Kuki Gallman (the movie was just as bad)

Any book by Anita Shreve... the female James Patterson, in my opinion

Under the Tuscan Sun- Frances Mayes (horrible horrible... what's up with these people romanticizing their lives and peddling it to the mass market?... another horrendous movie, quite different than the actual book)

A.M. Holmes writes some twisted stuff... Thingd You Should Know, The End of Alice, Music For The Torching

We Were The Mulvaneys- Joyce Carol Oates... a typical Oprah book

Life of Pi- Yann Martel... enjoyed it until they got to the island


Re: Books you can't bloody stand...
« Reply #139 on: November 05, 2005, 04:18:27 AM »
How has no one mentioned the obvious?? Oprah Club books!!! Before she started the classics, many were so horrendous they made you want to slit your own wrists! They are all the same... death and human misery.

While I agree that many of the choices for Oprah's book club were less than stellar, I give her a lot of credit for getting people who would never have otherwise even looked at a book to read.  Reading a crappy book is still reading, and if she got even a dozen people who don't usually read to pick up a book, I consider it a victory.


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Re: Books you can't bloody stand...
« Reply #140 on: November 05, 2005, 05:07:29 AM »
that's the same comment I made about Dan Brown  ;D


Re: Books you can't bloody stand...
« Reply #141 on: November 05, 2005, 05:10:51 AM »
that's the same comment I made about Dan Brown  ;D

Sorry, I misread that somehow.  :-[


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Re: Books you can't bloody stand...
« Reply #142 on: November 05, 2005, 11:29:35 AM »
Trinny and Suzanna : What your clothes say about you.... :P

before the T&S followers start on me this is my reason why:

I've seen this being read in the tube ...I had a look through it you know they should follow their own advice..now I don't have a problem with the advice given (some of it at least ) it's the way that it's presented as if they've never made fashion faux pas in their lives and that's what annoys me.. :P
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Re: Books you can't bloody stand...
« Reply #143 on: November 08, 2005, 04:38:39 PM »
I am an admitted sci-fi geek but I can't STAND anything by Robert Heinlein! His self-righteous, condescending crap makes me ill! What a bloody misogynist and yet I have female friends who love him and shrug that off "because it's so good."
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Re: Books you can't bloody stand...
« Reply #144 on: November 08, 2005, 06:32:20 PM »
I haven't read the whole thread but if it was mentioned before it is definately worth mentioning again. I despise Great Expectations. Every word of it was work to get through. Terrible.
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Re: Books you can't bloody stand...
« Reply #145 on: November 08, 2005, 07:26:18 PM »
Anyone remember ''The Bridges of Madison County'' by Robert James Waller??

Blechhh! :P

He was featured in People about a year or two after the book and movie came out..I believe he was caught doing research for the sequel to BOMC with the home help..

So much for one true love and all that.. :(


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Re: Books you can't bloody stand...
« Reply #146 on: November 09, 2005, 06:09:11 PM »
'We Need to Talk about Kevin'. 

No, Lionel, we need to talk about getting you to a therapist, b/c you need treatment, not a bloody book deal.


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Re: Books you can't bloody stand...
« Reply #147 on: November 10, 2005, 09:38:24 AM »
I've seen that book. What is it about, Expat?
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Re: Books you can't bloody stand...
« Reply #148 on: November 10, 2005, 01:19:03 PM »
'We Need to Talk about Kevin'.

No, Lionel, we need to talk about getting you to a therapist, b/c you need treatment, not a bloody book deal.

I had a hard time reading through the first part of the book. Halfway through it, though, it got interesting for me and by the end of it I was totally surprised and I thought it was very good. But it took me about a month to read it because I really freaking hated it at first.

But I would recommend it. It's a hard read, though.

Hopster, it's about a mother who is writing letters to her husband talking about their son, Kevin. Kevin murdered several people in a school shooting. It's asks the question, is a psychopath born or bred. It also talks about the taboo subject of a mother hating her child.
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Re: Books you can't bloody stand...
« Reply #149 on: November 11, 2005, 09:27:25 AM »
I've seen that book. What is it about, Expat?

It's banal b/c the characters are so black and white.  It's very obvious 'Lionel' - well, her birth name is Margaret but she changed it to Lionel.  And yes, she is still a woman - is not a parent and has a lot of issue surrounding every becoming one.  Fair enough.

The characters are so extreme I've seen more innovation and creativity in Japanese animation films.  It's almost comical how cardboard they are.

For a much more provocative, interesting tale of a person's ambivalence towards pro-creation, read 'Frankenstein'.  Cuz Shelley's got that s*&t down way more than Lionel Shriver could ever hope.

Or, if you really must go for a 'Kevin' type book which begs the question, is a psychopath born or bred?, a far better one is 'The Fifth Child'


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