HMRC Self-Assessment Online

Has anyone done this when they had to fill out the Non-Domicile and Foreign Pages?

Does it work, or are there problems if you don't have a "typical" tax return.

I've been doing it on paper but would switch to online if I knew there weren't going to be any glitches.

Sadly you can't file the return online using HMRCs free software if you need to file these forms (many users of this forum will choose to file either) unless you use an HMRC approved "work-around".  I am not sure though where on HMRCs website one finds these though...

Alternatively you can file online if you buy a tax programme. 

Thanks. I'll continue to do it on paper then.

Has anyone done this when they had to fill out the Non-Domicile and Foreign Pages?

Sadly you can't file the return online using HMRCs free software if you need to file these forms

As someone personally involved in the development of the first version, years ago, of the Inland Revenue's online Self Assessment offering, and who has seen it progress over the years, I can say, the answer above is now half right. That is, it is now possible to file the Foreign Pages, but still not possible to file the SA109 - Non-residence pages .... in that free software.

But there are quite a number of commercial products available, as listed on this HMRC webpage, and the individual versions are inexpensive.

That webpage also confirms that the SA106 Foreign pages are available in the HMRC free product.

Thanks Guya and John.

Note to all who my be reading: John's link contains a list of all the supplementary forms that are available on HMRC's free software.

Blah.  I don't know where to even begin with this.  Just got my " you must file by the 31st January or die letter" ( )...   Last year my company paid a tax company to help me do my online taxes for the UK, but I'm on my own this year. I've had my head in the sand and now need to do it. Where do I begin? Well besides enrolling to file online.

Mind you, I am not self-employed, I do everything PAYE. Still I was told last year on this forum that I need to do it still.  I don't mind (I actually like doing my US taxes, geek that I am) but is it better to use a tax prep software for the UK? What do I need to have on hand to do this?

I'm clueless. Help!   

I'm confused--how would someone know if they need to file in the UK??

Generally, you would need to file if you have income in the UK that doesn't get taken out automatically - that is, if you only get money from a salary (with tax taken out before you get paid) or a UK bank account (they take out tax on interest before you get the interest), you don't have to file.

You would need to file if you have income coming from another country.

You need to file if you are self-employed.

If HMRC thinks you have to file, they will usually send you a letter (but I wouldn't wait for the letter if I already knew that I had to file.)

Phatbeetle, if you are already getting tax taken out by PAYE and you don't have any other income, and they haven't messed up the PAYE if you do self-assessment  you are probably only going to have a minimum amount of tax to pay or to be credited, if anything - a few pounds or pennies.

I'm not sure why you were told that you need to file self-assessment if you do everything by PAYE. Are there  other issues?

Generally, if  your tax is straightforward and you don't have complicated issues, I find that UK Self Assessment is much easier than a US 1040.

I don't file online, but I think the advantage is that if you file online, the deadline is longer.

ETA: I'm not a tax expert. Just speaking from personal experience.

 

Thanks, sweetpeach.  I think I should be in the nonfiling category since it looks my job straightened out my tax code situation and credited me what I was owed already...

I'm not sure why you were told that you need to file self-assessment if you do everything by PAYE. Are there  other issues?

Nothing out of the ordinary- I don't have multiple jobs or anything, nor income earned from the US or anything else.  However, one was filed for me last year (as it was indeed complicated last year) so that's why I imagine I got the letter this year.

My deer in the headlights look is coming out as I am not sure where to start.   

If HMRC thinks you have to file, they will usually send you a letter (but I wouldn't wait for the letter if I already knew that I had to file.)

I would put it this way. If HMRC request that you file a Self Assessment tax return you must comply with that request, however simple your tax affairs are.

But if HMRC have not issued such a request, and you are liable to pay them some money, you need to notify them no later than 6th October following the end of the tax year that you are liable, and surprise surprise, HMRC react to that notification by issuing you with a letter requesting a Self Assessment tax return is completed.

Thanks. I'll continue to do it on paper then.

You posted that on 30th December, and sorry I did not pick up on that at the time. The point is this. Now that we are past 31st October any Self Assessment tax return must be filed electronically. Filing on paper will cost you a £100 penalty.

Of course it will cost a lot less than £100 to buy in commercial software so you can indeed file your return electronically, even though you need to file the SA109 - Non-residence pages.

But if HMRC have not issued such a request, and you are liable to pay them some money, you need to notify them no later than 6th October following the end of the tax year that you are liable, and surprise surprise, HMRC react to that notification by issuing you with a letter requesting a Self Assessment tax return is completed.

Okay, stupid question. What are the dates of the UK tax year. I just got here in October, and am getting a small income from a client in the US. I assume that I won't have to worry about this until next year???

Not a stupid question. But you might well think the answer is stupid!

The UK tax law starts each 6th April, and thus ends on the next 5th April.

am getting a small income from a client in the US. I assume that I won't have to worry about this until next year???

Does that mean that you are Self Employed? If so be aware that there is the need to notify HMRC of a new Self Employment, within 3 months of the start date. If Self Employed, have you notified them yet?

And roughly how much income are we talking about?

You posted that on 30th December, and sorry I did not pick up on that at the time. The point is this. Now that we are past 31st October any Self Assessment tax return must be filed electronically. Filing on paper will cost you a £100 penalty.

Of course it will cost a lot less than £100 to buy in commercial software so you can indeed file your return electronically, even though you need to file the SA109 - Non-residence pages.

2008-2009 was already done. I was asking about the following year.

Not a stupid question. But you might well think the answer is stupid!

The UK tax law starts each 6th April, and thus ends on the next 5th April.

Does that mean that you are Self Employed? If so be aware that there is the need to notify HMRC of a new Self Employment, within 3 months of the start date. If Self Employed, have you notified them yet?

And roughly how much income are we talking about?

I am actually considered an employee by the company in the US and the income is only about $750.00 (US) a month.


Lisa