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American filing taxes abroad?
« on: January 26, 2010, 06:42:31 AM »
Hi,

Just curious. I'm getting ready to file my taxes soon and I was wondering how things are going to change after this year ...

I'm getting married for one. How will this change my status, deductions, return, etc?

Secondly, I'm applying for a spouse visa this year, so come next Jan, I will have to file my taxes in England. How will my UK citizen husband's income & nationality affect that return?

Third, when I do find a job over there will my foreign income still get me a return since I will still be an American citizen?


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Re: American filing taxes abroad?
« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2010, 02:47:15 PM »
Yes, your deductions will be affected, because you are married.

I think most of us file "married, filing separately" and just list our spouse as a 'non-resident alien' for the purposes of US taxes.

Yes, you still have to file a US tax return because you are a US citizen. You do have to declare your foreign income, but since it is already taxed, it is highly unlikely that you will be taxed in the US.

I say all this from the basic research I've done regarding those exact things - I'm no tax expert.




Re: American filing taxes abroad?
« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2010, 02:50:42 PM »
You DO have to declare your foreign income but unless you make over $85000 you will not be taxed. There is a form for foreign earned income that you have to fill out and add to your 1040. Just for the record, I am a tax professional.


Re: American filing taxes abroad?
« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2010, 02:56:15 PM »
Oh and Im sure most people do file married filing separately, however you can file married. Just get your partner a federal tax id number, which is easy to do on the IRS website. They would be a nonresident alien.


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Re: American filing taxes abroad?
« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2010, 07:11:10 PM »
Is there any advantage to filing married instead of married-filing singly? 


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Re: American filing taxes abroad?
« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2010, 01:40:47 AM »
Yes, LeisaB, that was going to be my next question...

Thanks for the advice JennM. I went over to H&R Block yesterday, but the person there did not know the answers to my questions. I knew many at UK Yankee have been through the process, so I thought I'd ask.

JennM, I use Turbotax free online... will the form for foreign earned income be easy to get or even fill out online?


Re: American filing taxes abroad?
« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2010, 02:13:17 AM »
About the married/married filing separately, if you file married you have to include your spouses income but you get the deductions too. The only way this would be advantageous is if your spouse was unemployed or was for most of the year. In this case, you would add no income and still get close to $10000 deductions.

In my opinion, never trust anything H&R Block tells you. They go through a few week training course and outside of the major deductions, they dont know anything. The foreign earned income form is really easy and self explanatory and you should be able to fill it out. It has its separate instructions and the IRS's instructions are usually written pretty well and on a level that everyone can understand.

As for Turbo Tax, I have no idea. I would imagine the free version will not allow you to do it. Usually the free versions of any product are for straight forward 1040's. I dont know for a fact but I would guess that you will have to file a paper return and not be able to efile using any program except the really expensive products.

Also, just to let you know, I am not an expat tax expert by any means. I do know alot about the issues as I do most tax things, but I work in corporate tax and have since the second I got out of undergrad. I do have a Masters in Tax with an emphasis in International Tax so I have definitely done my fair share of research on expat stuff. I am however, really good at research and know exactly where to look for questions so if you have any specific questions, feel free to PM me. I dont mind helping at all and I can probably find things way quicker than someone who isnt used to the IRS' crazy site and I also have access to tax research software. 2010 will be my first personal expat return so it will help me learn more myself.


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Re: American filing taxes abroad?
« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2010, 10:30:46 PM »
You can jointly elect to file a joint US return.

This means including the alien spouse's worldwide income and gains (so including UK pensions, ISAs, FBARs, PFICs etc etc).  In rare circumstances this saves US and/or UK tax between you both.

The election once legally made can be revoked later by either spouse, but then never again made with the same non-resident alien spouse.


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