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Re: Daily Mail article on Americanisms ruining the English language
« Reply #165 on: June 08, 2010, 09:55:31 PM »
irregardless is a pet hate of mine
I'm with you on that--can't stand it. I also drive DH nuts by correcting everyone on the tv when they mix up "less" and "fewer". Ha. I usually don't do it in front of other people though.


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Re: Daily Mail article on Americanisms ruining the English language
« Reply #166 on: June 08, 2010, 09:59:01 PM »
My TV pet peeve is people using 'I' when it should be 'me.' I couldn't believe my imaginary best friend Kirstie Allsopp did it just the other day. :(
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Re: Daily Mail article on Americanisms ruining the English language
« Reply #167 on: June 08, 2010, 10:33:25 PM »
My TV pet peeve is people using 'I' when it should be 'me.' I couldn't believe my imaginary best friend Kirstie Allsopp did it just the other day. :(

I suppose you mean the "Frank and me went to the beach" type of misuse, and not the sort I remember from an event in one of Richmal Crompton's "William" books...  it went something like this...

William: It was me that broke Mr. Green's window, Father.

Mr. Brown: It was I.

William: Jolly decent of you to take the blame!



Re: Daily Mail article on Americanisms ruining the English language
« Reply #168 on: June 08, 2010, 10:49:32 PM »
Another of my hates is people writing "rediculous".


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Re: Daily Mail article on Americanisms ruining the English language
« Reply #169 on: June 09, 2010, 12:21:32 AM »
irregardless is a pet hate of mine
Mine too!


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Re: Daily Mail article on Americanisms ruining the English language
« Reply #170 on: June 09, 2010, 07:41:12 AM »
I suppose you mean the "Frank and me went to the beach" type of misuse,

No, I mean this: "This is going to be a real challenge for Phil and I."

It's as though people think it's more correct to use I, but they wind up sounding like idiots.
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Re: Daily Mail article on Americanisms ruining the English language
« Reply #171 on: June 09, 2010, 08:30:28 AM »
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For instance, now that I live in the United States, I often use the archaic Anglo-Norman words PITCHER and PAIL instead of the modern English words JUG and BUCKET.
My UK acquaintances say "bucket & spade".  I say "pail & shovel".  When I do, some of them snicker, snort a bit and tsk-tsk me for being "sooo American".  That really annoys me.   >:(  Neither phrase is wrong or right, they're just different.
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Re: Daily Mail article on Americanisms ruining the English language
« Reply #172 on: June 09, 2010, 09:37:38 AM »
Wow, what occasion do you have to discuss pails and shovels with acquaintances? Or are we using the expression let's call a spade a spade?


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Re: Daily Mail article on Americanisms ruining the English language
« Reply #173 on: June 09, 2010, 09:41:48 AM »
When discussing grandchildren.   :)


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Re: Daily Mail article on Americanisms ruining the English language
« Reply #174 on: June 09, 2010, 09:47:02 AM »
Wow, what occasion do you have to discuss pails and shovels with acquaintances? Or are we using the expression let's call a spade a spade?

When you're going to the beach :P!!


Re: Daily Mail article on Americanisms ruining the English language
« Reply #175 on: June 09, 2010, 09:59:39 AM »
I use both "bucket" and "pail", although I probably used "pail" more when I was younger.  I think I switched to "bucket" when I moved away from where I grew up.  To me, a spade is a very specific type of shovel that has a pointy end to break up earth.  It's a digging shovel.

I will have to ask Mr A what he calls these two things when he gets home.  I've not noticed him not understanding my yankeeisms in this case.

My pet peeve, and people on both sides of the pond do it, is using "begs the question" to mean "raises the question".  They are not the same thing, and it's always people trying to sound smarter who use it.  Or when people use "whom" wrong. This is probably both from it falling out of use in the States and pronoun confusion like the "I" and "me" thing.  If you don't know how to use it, don't use it.  Other than that I am pretty lenient (although I often correct grammar in my head) unless it's a person who is making a living writing or speaking.
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Re: Daily Mail article on Americanisms ruining the English language
« Reply #176 on: June 09, 2010, 10:01:59 AM »
One of the things that annoys me most is incorrect use of object and subject pronouns. Someday I will snap and strangle a person who says, 'Between you and I.'
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Re: Daily Mail article on Americanisms ruining the English language
« Reply #177 on: June 09, 2010, 10:19:12 AM »
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I use both "bucket" and "pail", although I probably used "pail" more when I was younger.  I think I switched to "bucket" when I moved away from where I grew up.
Now that I think about it I do use "pail" when talking about playing in the sand but I use "bucket" when it's time to mop the floor.  And that's what I should be doing right now.   :)


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Re: Daily Mail article on Americanisms ruining the English language
« Reply #178 on: June 09, 2010, 02:55:28 PM »
"Peeve" is an interesting word - used several times in this thread, as in "my pet peeve."

We are all familiar with the English word PEEVISH, an adjective that dates back to medieval times - etymology is uncertain, but it probably comes from Latin or French.  In modern times (United States, the twentieth century..) people thought, there must surely be a verb and a noun to go with peevish!  So the word PEEVE was derived by back-formation from PEEVISH.  1901 is the earliest instance quoted in the Oxford English Dictionary.


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Re: Daily Mail article on Americanisms ruining the English language
« Reply #179 on: June 09, 2010, 05:38:45 PM »
Slightly related to this:
Does anyone else know Brits under 30 who seem to think being well spoken is uncool?

DH and his friends will use double negatives, mix up I & me, etc. They were all raised middle class and completed degrees at good universities (seriously in the top 20 UK uni's). When talking about this with DH and a few friends, they came to the conclusion that I was 'elitist' for expecting very well educated people to know what an adverb is. My DH explained he would rather use the wrong words, because if you are well spoken people will think you are a try-hard.

If this opinion is more than just where I live, maybe the Queen's English is out the door anyway?

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