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EU citizen do I get home rates?
« on: July 25, 2010, 11:24:16 AM »
My mother asked my if my little brother gets his Irish citizenship can he go to Uni over here in the UK on home rates?
I looked at Durham's website and could not find the answers...does anyone know?
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Re: EU citizen do I get home rates?
« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2010, 11:30:45 AM »
No, he can't.  Home rates don't have anything to do with citizenship, necessarily, they have to do with where the student was physically living for the three years before their courses begin.  If a UK citizen were to spend a year living in the US, for example, they would not be eligible for home rates when they returned to the UK. 

However, don't EU citizens, regardless of where they live, pay lower rates than non-EU?  Not sure about that, but you could check.   
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Re: EU citizen do I get home rates?
« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2010, 11:37:01 AM »
No, he can't.  Home rates don't have anything to do with citizenship, necessarily, they have to do with where the student was physically living for the three years before their courses begin.  If a UK citizen were to spend a year living in the US, for example, they would not be eligible for home rates when they returned to the UK. 

This is fairly standard, AFAIK.

However, don't EU citizens, regardless of where they live, pay lower rates than non-EU?  Not sure about that, but you could check.   

Never heard of this. EU students, if EU resident, pay home rate fees, AFAIK. If not, they also would be eligible for overseas fees, AFAIK 

The home rates vs overseas question should be answered here:
http://www.ukcisa.org.uk/student/information_sheets.php#tuition_fees


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Re: EU citizen do I get home rates?
« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2010, 11:47:15 AM »
Thanks MLG ;-)
I thought it would be a long stretch but when my mom asks I said I would find out.

I dont think my brother wants to live with us for 3 years before school ;-)


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Re: EU citizen do I get home rates?
« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2010, 11:52:11 AM »
No worries!

I dont think my brother wants to live with us for 3 years before school ;-)

and  :P


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Re: EU citizen do I get home rates?
« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2010, 06:06:31 PM »
If a UK citizen were to spend a year living in the US, for example, they would not be eligible for home rates when they returned to the UK. 

Not necessarily - it depends on where they held their ordinary residence during that year. If you move to the US and cut all ties to the UK, making the US your main home, then you will not qualify for home fees when you return, but if your time in the US is temporary and you still maintain ordinary residence in the UK while you're gone, then you can qualify for home fees.

I lived in the US for 10 months and for 8 months (two separate occasions) but I was still eligible for home fees when I returned because I had been in the US on a non-immigrant student visa and had maintained ordinary residence in the UK during my studies.


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Re: EU citizen do I get home rates?
« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2010, 09:55:03 PM »
Not necessarily - it depends on where they held their ordinary residence during that year. If you move to the US and cut all ties to the UK, making the US your main home, then you will not qualify for home fees when you return, but if your time in the US is temporary and you still maintain ordinary residence in the UK while you're gone, then you can qualify for home fees.

I should have mentioned the part about ordinary residence - but all that information should be provided in the link I provided. My UK / EU / UK residence for 5 years + holding ILR did not allow me home fees for the first year when I did my first MA part time.

TBH, I think the universities seem to apply it how they want to. Only because I asked them to officially assess me prior to taking my course was I able to get home rates in the 2nd year (residence UK one year, EU 2 and then UK 3 by that point).  

ETA: I didn't mention ordinary residence, as in the OP's case, it seemed clear to me that the brother's ordinary residence is the US.   

Once your brother has formalised his Irish citizenship, he could always write to Durham University's finance department for a fees assessment, as that is what I did. But I suspect as he has been resident in the US all his life, he would be liable for international fees unless he has three years EU residency post acquisition of Irish citizenship. The link should clarify any queries you have.
« Last Edit: July 26, 2010, 08:40:25 AM by mapleleafgirl72 »


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