Immigration is a problem

I wonder about the OP's opinion of previous forced British colonialism on other countries.
Last time I checked my visa I have no recourse to public funds. So I am unable to get housing benefit etc. Migrants who do get this would be doing it under false pretenses, and this wouldn't be a legal entitlement.
As far as people commenting on British culture or whatever, freedom of speech is a right that is held in esteem in every civilised Western country. So anyone, citizen , migrant, refugee etc can criticize or praise whatever they want.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_FIFA_World_Cup_Group_C

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_FIFA_World_Cup_Group_C

*snort* 

I think the OP is on to something big, and I'm surprised I haven't heard more about it outside of this thread, because it seems like the sort of thing that would be reported all over the news in such strident tones that I'd be really really tired of hearing about it by now.  Has anybody brought this "immigration problem" issue up to Parliament or to any news organizations?

Maybe the OP would be happier living a place without an "immigrant problem", without a welfare system to pay into (no one can sponge off something that doesn't exist!) and voicing where a negative opinion is frowned upon. May I suggest North Korea? At least they could prove they weren't "racist" or "xenophobic".

Also,

Being born and bred here, this is the attitude, feeling and belief at the moment as I understand it.

My DH, friends and family were born here, and they don't seem to have the same "attitude, feeling and belief" as you. Maybe you should use a bigger focus group when gathering the data next time? I'm sure the Brits on here would love to help!

Has anybody brought this "immigration problem" issue up to Parliament or to any news organizations?

It was probably hushed by all the left wing immigrants!

I think it’s important when discussing the topic of immigration in such a way to look back on the previous election only a couple of months ago. Without a doubt, immigration was one of the most hotly debated subjects- and one of the influencing factors for the large swing to the right. The Conservatives wanting, and currently putting into place measures, to cap immigration from outside of the European Union- and quite rightly so in my opinion.

Just look at the ‘apparent’ ‘Bigotgate’ incident. One of the pressing questions presented to Gordon Brown that morning in Rochdale was the subject of immigrants from Eastern Europe. This was asked by a Labour supporter, someone who has voted to the left of Labour all their life. I suppose a typical Labour supporter, somebody  coming from a working class background (not somebody from the Liberal elite) and is now truly confused on what has happened to THEIR country in the past few years. It’s upsetting and as I have explained in my original post- immigrants are the easy target when things go wrong, history proves it. Sorry.

As regards to the thread ‘I need to hear good things about the UK’ – some of the reasons are quite laughable to say the least, some favourites include: Women in hats at weddings, The Coast (I never realised America was landlocked), Tesco, No commercials on TV and of course ‘Green!!!!!!!Grass’- I never knew that America didn’t have a single blade of 'green grass'! It must be unbearable!

Naturally, the topic in question isn’t going to go down well on a forum such as this- but really, Is there a better place to post it?

Naturally, the topic in question isn’t going to go down well on a forum such as this- but really, Is there a better place to post it?

Well, you could put it somewhere where those who actually make the laws, that allowed all of us 'filthy' immigrants in to being with, would see it. You're preaching to a group, that as a majority, aren't responsible for how 'your country' has turned out and can't do a bloomin' thing about it to begin with -- we can't vote, so maybe you should be presenting your idea to your local BNP representitive as you may find a more accepting response from them.

As regards to the thread ‘I need to hear good things about the UK’ – some of the reasons are quite laughable to say the least, some favourites include: Women in hats at weddings, The Coast (I never realised America was landlocked), Tesco, No commercials on TV and of course ‘Green!!!!!!!Grass’- I never knew that America didn’t have a single blade of 'green grass'! It must be unbearable!

Naturally, the topic in question isn’t going to go down well on a forum such as this- but really, Is there a better place to post it?

First you attack people who complain about your country and then you mock the things that people enjoy about it.

You're really helping me get through the week with the laughs you're providing.  Thanks!

Perhaps next you should waltz out to a farm and ask the pigs what their thoughts on Swine Flu are!

As regards to the thread ‘I need to hear good things about the UK’ – some of the reasons are quite laughable to say the least, some favourites include: Women in hats at weddings, The Coast (I never realised America was landlocked), Tesco, No commercials on TV and of course ‘Green!!!!!!!Grass’- I never knew that America didn’t have a single blade of 'green grass'! It must be unbearable!

Sooo...our complaints make you want us to "GO HOME" yet the things we cherish about this country are..."laughable"?

Good grief. Please, troll harder elsewhere.

I think it’s important when discussing....

Boring.  Please go away, troll.

Where is the *headdesk* smiley?

Just look at the ‘apparent’ ‘Bigotgate’ incident. One of the pressing questions presented to Gordon Brown that morning in Rochdale was the subject of immigrants from Eastern Europe. This was asked by a Labour supporter, someone who has voted to the left of Labour all their life. I suppose a typical Labour supporter, somebody  coming from a working class background (not somebody from the Liberal elite) and is now truly confused on what has happened to THEIR country in the past few years. It’s upsetting and as I have explained in my original post- immigrants are the easy target when things go wrong, history proves it.

It IS upsetting when generally good people use immigrants as an "easy target when things go wrong" and say bigoted things because it is the historical excuse, instead of looking at the bigger picture on this economy. So glad we can agree.

we can't vote, so maybe you should be presenting your idea to your local BNP representitive as you may find a more accepting response from them.

At least they won't accuse anyone of racism!

Well, you could put it somewhere where those who actually make the laws, that allowed all of us 'filthy' immigrants in to being with, would see it. You're preaching to a group, that as a majority, aren't responsible for how 'your country' has turned out and can't do a bloomin' thing about it to begin with -- we can't vote, so maybe you should be presenting your idea to your local BNP representitive as you may find a more accepting response from them.

Entirley unfounded, untrue and unfair. In no way have I referred nor implied that immigrants are ‘filthy’ . Also suggesting that I should present my view to the British National Party shows how you little you understand about British politics.

QFT.

However, I am sorry to hear that Hello couldn't find anything but negative in that thread and his negativity seemed to focus on things we could find in the US. Many British people have found it very moving.  I wonder if he wants more threads that maybe don't focus on things he finds twee or common place in the US.

One thing I do want to point out is that I cannot find in the US is my husband, the man I met and married and stood by for almost 9 years because I love him regardless of where he is from.  We live here because of many factors, but I really can't see how Hello thinks coming into a forum where the majority of posters are in the UK because of a legitimate relationship with a British person will convince them to leave (or feel guilty about coming here).  Maybe he should be criticising people falling in love with foreigners, because no matter how it turns out, either one of them is going to end up an immigrant (or both) or the relationship will fail.

The other large group of people here are people with their Master's degree or higher or working in a shortage field (or both).  If you're looking for people who are here to take advantage of the dole, you're shaking the wrong tree.

ETA:

One thing I would like to point out for Hello is that the reason that Americans love the coast here is the fact that most Americans don't live within easy driving distance of the coast.  The fact that we're always within a bus ride of it here is amazing to us.  And the green bit...well, there's a lot of green in the US, but it's a big place with a varied climate.  There are a lot of places without a single blade of grass, and others where it's very seasonal.  It's green here in most places year round.

And that list is about what people love about the UK, not why they are here.  They aren't here for the Beeb and chimney pots.  There are threads here on why people are here if you'd like to do some searching.

Entirley unfounded, untrue and unfair. In no way have I referred nor implied that immigrants are ‘filthy’ . Also suggesting that I should present my view to the British National Party shows how you little you understand about British politics.

And your posts are the picture of truth, fairness, and well-founded statements.   

i still don't understand why the OP posted his/her thoughts in the forum. 

Is the person trying to goad us into saying something and then use it against immigrants/Americans at a later date? Seems a bit suss to me.

I know the OP said it's to start a debate, but, all of the comments/ words used weren't those to start a debate, but, those used to put people on the defensive. I'm sure another poster said something else to the same effect.

Just wondering what the other side of the coin is/what the motive is.