ADVISORY: Confirmation of Caps to Family Path Settlement Visas

What was his take on the immigration cap?

He and the Federation of Small Businesses guy were both of the strong belief that the cap will hurt UK businesses and the economy (but were in favour of the PBS overall). Dampen Green and Lin Homer (head of UKBA) were just on and got a total grilling by the committee, but I've reached my limit of immigration politics for the day... Sorry to derail a bit!

This makes me so glad I've got the Irish passport. Hope they aren't going to mess around with that! 

I think that changing much of anything to this type of visa is quite emotive, and makes for the opportunity to print a lot of bad human interest stories--something any government would probably rather avoid.  

I think you may be underestimating how much Brits want an immigration cap, like other western countries.

The 'right to family life' can take place in either country.

I think you may be underestimating how much Brits want an immigration cap, like other western countries.

The 'right to family life' can take place in either country.

Of course, I understand the want of immigration caps and that a family could choose to live elsewhere--I suppose more than thinking that it is impossible for them to further restrict settlement visas, as I know fully that they can and probably will at some point do so, I'm thinking it won't be the first thing, and it won't be some massive, overnight change, just given how prior changes to settlement visas have occured.

  That is strictly my assumption, and it probably isn't without a healthy side of wishful thinking.

I definitely see the writing on the wall, immigration of any kind is going to be limited in the UK and soon--I just presume that spousal, dependents, et cetera will be one of the later groups to be culled. 

The 'right to family life' can take place in either country.

Not always! There are lots of countries in the world- and sometimes if the Brit needs to move to a particular country, it could put them in harms way. 

Not always! There are lots of countries in the world- and sometimes if the Brit needs to move to a particular country, it could put them in harms way. 

I was talking about UKC and USC marrying: this is a US site.

I'm going to stick my neck out here and say that I think a person shouldn't have to choose between taking care of a sick/dieing parent or being with their spouse, regardless of country (if their spouse has no criminal record of course).

Andy

Right to family life can't be preserved if the couple is ineligible for immigration to the US.  

I definitely see the writing on the wall, immigration of any kind is going to be limited in the UK and soon--I just presume that spousal, dependents, et cetera will be one of the later groups to be culled. 

Cameron is all for family life, but he also seems to want to encourage the high earners to the UK and reduce benefits. Work out what they will be doing from that?

If the UKC has a criminal history or an adverse immigration history in the US, they might not let him/her move there, so the UK would be the only option. 

I'm going to stick my neck out here and say that I think a person shouldn't have to choose between taking care of a sick/dieing parent or being with their spouse, regardless of country (if their spouse has no criminal record of course).

If the parent is sick/dying, then the long path to citizenship won't come into it, as a short visa will suffice. Interstingly, the UK does take spouses with criminal records.........at the moment.

I wonder what would happen to a couple if both had criminal records and neither country would allow their spouse in?

I think you may be underestimating how much Brits want an immigration cap, like other western countries.

The 'right to family life' can take place in either country.

I disagree, my ex husband would FREAK if I mentioned taking the kids to the States to start "family life" over there. My right to family life is already dictated to me, I have got to stay in the UK for my kids to see their father so now I face immigration saying well sorry but your spouse can't have his visa for whatever reason and I will be expected to swallow it and live in a separate country to my husband (fiance at the moment).

If the UKC has a criminal history or an adverse immigration history in the US, they might not let him/her move there, so the UK would be the only option.  

Not only that but sometimes people like Karrit's husband are banned for immigration for reasons like they once worked for a government and the US government will forever be suspicious of them.  Or sometimes the UKC makes more money than the USC who might not have the income, assets, or sponsors required for US immigration.

I was talking about UKC and USC marrying: this is a US site.

Yes, but the rule changes affect more non-EU countries than just the US.

If the UKC has a criminal history or an adverse immigration history in the US, they might not let him/her move there, so the UK would be the only option. 

So what will happen if other countries bring that in too?