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Re: Maternity benefit US vs UK
« Reply #30 on: September 12, 2004, 11:17:09 PM »
Yes well I added 2 weeks of my annual leave onto the start of my maternity leave (here in UK) otherwsie I would have been working up until D-Day as it were. That would have been fun, might have given birth under myt desk or behind a filing cabinet! :)

What I was trying to say, is, as Mindy correctly surmised, that UK maternity/paternity/parental STATUTORY provisions could be better - as indeed in most countries.  Since the governemnt improved htings a bit last year a myth seems ot have sprung up that everyone can now afford to have 26 weeks off work. As for thinking about whether one can afford a baby ... well I can speak for anyone else, but at the age of 36 I wasn't going to think about that for much longer!!

Squirrel, maybe you can tell us a bit more about how the tax credits work ... I'll be finding out soon enough but does this mean you pay less tax throughout the year or is it something you claim back at the end of the financial year?

Anyway now I'm home with my beautiful baby and I don't want to leave him for one day ever and I guess I will find a way to do that somehow ...


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Re: Maternity benefit US vs UK
« Reply #31 on: September 13, 2004, 04:21:18 AM »
Yes well I added 2 weeks of my annual leave onto the start of my maternity leave (here in UK) otherwsie I would have been working up until D-Day as it were. That would have been fun, might have given birth under myt desk or behind a filing cabinet! :)

It's funny you should say that.  My company in the US didn't pay for maternity leave until you had the baby, unless you had to stop working for medical reasons. (Being 40 weeks pregnant didn't count).  I didn't have any spare vacation and couldn't afford to take unpaid time off, so I continued to work.  My due day was on a Wednesday, when I showed up to work on Thursday people were suprised.  Friday was a holiday, so when I showed up to work the following Monday (now 5 days over due) everyone was visibily uncomfortable.  Luckly I was set up to work from home (the day doesn't end a 5), so they let me work from home for the next 2 weeks.  I wish I could have just relaxed, instead of sitting at the computer at home. 

The funniest part is that at 2 weeks over due, I had to go into the office to check a print out.  I felt fine and the baby was fine, but the look of horror on the men's faces at the office.   :o  Half were following me arround like I was going to go into labor at any moment, and the other half were hiding.  Looking back, I have to laugh about the day my supervisor came up to me and asked what to do if I go into labor.  He was so sweet and absolutly teriffied that I was going to have the baby under my desk.   ::)  I calmly told him that if I went into labor in the office, he wouldn't know, I'd just tell him I wasn't feeling well and go home.  That didn't make him feel any better, but the last thing I was going to need was a bunch of 50 something men freeking out while I was in labor.

I did take my full 6 weeks off paid, and could have taken off an additional 6 weeks unpaid (like I could afford that). But to my companie's credit, they were a bit more progressive.  I work in the office in the morning and from home in the afternoon.  There aren't to many women there and most have grown kids, but the few of us with small kids, they are quite good to.  And seeing as we all gave birth in a 6 month span of eachother, they didn't have much of a choice.  I chalk it upto the fact that it's a Norwegian company, and while they aren't going to give their US employees Norwegian benefits (18 months full pay anyone), they're flexable. 

I guess a real perk about the UK is that you get a tax credit (for having more dependents) and money each week from the government.  And another perk about the UK is the NHS.  Now before you get all upset, my health insurance will only cover $500 per year for well visits.  At $175 a visit, if you claim it on the insurance.  It's half if you pay cash.  And the immunizations were going to be hundreds of dollars as well, but I went to a state clinic where they are $10 a shot.  You get all that covered and someone to come by your house to check on you.   

After all of the money we shelled out for having a baby and keeping him healthy, as well as not getting as much back from the government, I can see how many people see the UK as better.  But I am happy with the US and it's quirky system.  My husband is still getting used to it, but at least he doesn't compare everything to the UK anymore.  I guess the better system is the system you know and have learned to adapt to.

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Re: Maternity benefit US vs UK
« Reply #32 on: September 13, 2004, 09:27:53 AM »
I guess the better system is the system you know and have learned to adapt to.

Thats a brilliant point.
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Re: Maternity benefit US vs UK
« Reply #33 on: September 13, 2004, 09:31:53 AM »
The Family Leave Act in the US only covers companies with a certain amount of employees.

So when I left to have my youngest who was already 2 weeks late (over a holiday weekend, mind), after 1-1/2 weeks I no longer had a job to go back to, with no reasoning (Florida is a "right to work" state like Squirrel mentioned) and no protection.

Plus I had medical expenses because I wasn't poor enough for government health care, but didn't have health benefits at work.

So give me the UK system any day.
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« Reply #34 on: September 13, 2004, 03:26:34 PM »
When I had my youngest (here in the US) I worked for a company where I didn't even have benefits at all...no vacation, sick time or maternity leave. I had to return to work when he was 10 days old. I was told either be back at work or let someone else have the job. I know it doesn't sound legal but it was because I was receiving a promotion. If I returned after 10 days I got the promotion...if not then I still could have a job with the company but it would be a much lower paying position that I really didn't want. So I left my 10 day old baby with a sitter (he was too young for any day care centers to take so luckily I had a friend who could take care of him) and returned to work. :-\\\\


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« Reply #35 on: September 13, 2004, 03:32:24 PM »
What happened to the title of this thread?  Has Squirrel left the building or am I losing my mind?   ???


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« Reply #36 on: September 13, 2004, 03:33:43 PM »
What happened to the title of this thread?  Has Squirrel left the building or am I losing my mind?   ???

Yep looks that way. :-\\\\


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« Reply #37 on: September 13, 2004, 03:34:30 PM »
I suspect nuts are involved in one way or another...


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« Reply #38 on: September 13, 2004, 04:46:05 PM »
well i hope it wasn't anything i said ... i didn't mean to offend ...  :-X


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Re: UK and US maternity benefits:a discussion
« Reply #39 on: September 13, 2004, 05:42:28 PM »
She said on another forum she got mad about travel insurance and trying to explain that it wasn't appropriate to use when moving back to the US.  I dunno.. just what she said somewhere else... 
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Re: UK and US maternity benefits:a discussion
« Reply #40 on: September 13, 2004, 08:56:39 PM »
Oh, well.  I guess it's hard to make friends and feel a part of a community when all you want to do is 'set people right.'.  ::)     To each his own. 


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Re: UK and US maternity benefits:a discussion
« Reply #41 on: September 13, 2004, 11:02:31 PM »
Did she cancel her account? (Squirrel)  ???


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