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Re: Can my sons mother in law have our grand daughter adopted
« Reply #30 on: December 26, 2011, 04:48:47 PM »
Yes, I realize this, but it certainly doesn't make it easy though unfortunately.


Re: Can my sons mother in law have our grand daughter adopted
« Reply #31 on: December 26, 2011, 04:48:56 PM »
If he were exercising his treaty rights in another country, your previous denial would have no effect on his ability to bring you to that country in the EEA.  It would be very difficult for another country in the EU/EEA to deny you the right to live there provided your husband was exercising his treaty rights (working, running a business, school, etc, although the first one would be the easiest in terms of not having to have means or health insurance).  You would not have to pay for your permits/visas either.  The EU allows nations to regulate their own citizens' abilities to bring foreign family into the country.  They don't allow much regulation when it's another EU national living in a country other than their own.  ETA: You would have to be a serious threat to national security or in serious violation of immigration fraud for a country to have a case against a non-EEA spouse.  And to travel in the EU, your husband has the right to have you with him.  Your passport and marriage certificate is all that is needed.  Seriously.


And of course the most ideal thing would be to keep your child with you and to be reunited with your husband.  However, I was talking about the option of sending him or her over if you seriously felt that your mother was going to try to get the child put into care...
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Re: Can my sons mother in law have our grand daughter adopted
« Reply #32 on: December 26, 2011, 04:49:52 PM »
If you don't have a job, is your husband sending you money? Or are you entirely reliant on your mother? Because if he isn't, perhaps you could get it sorted so that he sends a bit each week which you can give to your mom. It would be better than nothing, even if it's not a lot, and it would show that you are trying.

Also is there any way that you could get a job at all? I know no one wants to be apart from their babies, but if you could find something that covers the cost of childcare that may also appease your mother. You may even be able to get assistance to cover some of your childcare costs.


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Re: Can my sons mother in law have our grand daughter adopted
« Reply #33 on: December 26, 2011, 04:53:26 PM »
I'm not familiar with treaty rights may I enquire as to what that entails exactly? Does this allow me tp enter the EU without a visa? And as far  as my mom trying to put Vanessa up for adoption she's assured me she realizes that she could not do that


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Re: Can my sons mother in law have our grand daughter adopted
« Reply #34 on: December 26, 2011, 04:58:50 PM »
I rely entirely on my mom's financial help my husband can't afford to send money. Also, money isn't the only reason that my mom doesn't want me living with her anyway, she just wants her life back she says she can't stand not being able to date and so on and so forth meh
 


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Re: Can my sons mother in law have our grand daughter adopted
« Reply #35 on: December 26, 2011, 05:02:24 PM »
Also, my mom won't let me get a job, WIC and foodstamps both offer ree babysitting services as long as you have a job, but I don't have a car, or anybody able to take me to and from work, trust me, if I could have a job I would have been working for the pas


Re: Can my sons mother in law have our grand daughter adopted
« Reply #36 on: December 26, 2011, 05:06:15 PM »
The easiest way would be for him to get a job in a country which is either in the EU or EEA.  He has the right to work, study, live, and do business in any country in these areas.  While exercising these rights, he has the right to a family life which would include you.

Yes, this means with some exceptions he would need to try to find a job where the majority of the people don't speak English as a first language, but he could pick up the language as he lived there.  You'd be able to go there initially with him (different countries have different allowances.  Some are 3 months, some 6, IIRC).  He'd need to find a job before that time was up in order to stay there with you.

http://europa.eu/eu-life/residence-rights/index_en.htm


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Re: Can my sons mother in law have our grand daughter adopted
« Reply #37 on: December 26, 2011, 05:12:27 PM »
Well I'm not sure that that's going to be possible seeing as my husband's not really qualified to do anything much else than what he does and the problem's trying to get me off of the sreets ASAP that'd take up to a year at least :(


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Re: Can my sons mother in law have our grand daughter adopted
« Reply #38 on: December 26, 2011, 05:30:05 PM »
they only allow you to stay temporarily for one month maximum which I'd obviously just be back in this situation again in a months time which I'd really rather not have to worry about this again if possible
I was on the board of directors of a shelter in PA. It was classed as an emergency shelter, which is only for up to 30 days. I can tell you that very few people only stayed 30 days. They are not going to throw you out of an emergency shelter on to the street. They are going to work with you to help you sort out a reasonable housing option- don't rule a place out because they tell you it is only 30 days. These places can offer the type of support it seems like you could use at the moment for you and your daughter.


Re: Can my sons mother in law have our grand daughter adopted
« Reply #39 on: December 26, 2011, 06:00:56 PM »
Well I'm not sure that that's going to be possible seeing as my husband's not really qualified to do anything much else than what he does and the problem's trying to get me off of the sreets ASAP that'd take up to a year at least :(

It shouldn't take a year.  You don't need to be qualified for anything to work in another country. Sure, it wouldn't solve your immediate problem, but I am not sure what we can offer than what has already been posted.  If you have a way out of the situation you're in, it's a lot better than having no option to be together.


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Re: Can my sons mother in law have our grand daughter adopted
« Reply #40 on: December 26, 2011, 06:01:51 PM »
I'm not ruling any options out as of yet, I'm merely saying I've been t
hrough all of this before several times and unfortunately in my county of residence there is nothing, trust me, I've literally spent hours days calling places..


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Re: Can my sons mother in law have our grand daughter adopted
« Reply #41 on: December 26, 2011, 06:14:53 PM »
Pads mentioned that your husband is going to see a lawyer next week, hopefully they can help get you to the UK the conventional way.  If I were you, I would look into finding a place you can stay for a few weeks at least until you have a better idea of what options you may have.  Do you have any friends you could crash with, even for a short time?
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Re: Can my sons mother in law have our grand daughter adopted
« Reply #42 on: December 26, 2011, 06:20:06 PM »
Well there's really nothing that a public solicitor can do, the bottom line for our refusal of entry clearance is financial, they can't, unfortunately, change my husbands salary abd my best friend can't take me in, they have no room, or money.


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Re: Can my sons mother in law have our grand daughter adopted
« Reply #43 on: December 26, 2011, 06:27:45 PM »
I'm not ruling any options out as of yet, I'm merely saying I've been t
hrough all of this before several times and unfortunately in my county of residence there is nothing, trust me, I've literally spent hours days calling places..
Then you may have to look outside of your county of residence, you may also need to be calling churches and the salvation army- there will be an option out there. I know it is very hard to see the light at the end of the tunnel it feels like you have exhausted all options, but there will be an option-- you just have to keep plodding away until you find it.


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Re: Can my sons mother in law have our grand daughter adopted
« Reply #44 on: December 26, 2011, 06:35:32 PM »
Unfortunately, most shelters are only allowed to assist those in their county of residence only and I've called and visited churches as well.


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