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Topic: Theresa May wants minimum income of £25,700; £49,000 if you have 2 kids  (Read 10226 times)

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Here is the official e-petition ----- SIGN IT!!!!!!!

http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/32167
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What I don't get is that NON UK citizens have more rights to bring in their spouse/family than actualy UK citizens do! How is that even possible? The government is screwing their own tax-paying, voting citizens!! Ugh. It makes me angry to think about.
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from what I understand most of them are from the eu countries , I am from the US  and live in Scotland now little over a year . If I want to have someone come over they would have to get a visa if I am not wrong .. (NOT that I want )


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My wife (UKC) said this .  "They cannot make it impossible for me to return home with my family.  That would be refusing a British Citizen a right to abode in their own country." 
I have to agree with her on this, they will be hard pressed to say to a British Citizen that she cannot move home without her husband and son. 
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My wife (UKC) said this .  "They cannot make it impossible for me to return home with my family.  That would be refusing a British Citizen a right to abode in their own country." 
I have to agree with her on this, they will be hard pressed to say to a British Citizen that she cannot move home without her husband and son. 


Exactly! I mean, say what you will about the US system taking a while, etc, but I don't ever hear of them refusing Americans from legitimately bringing in their families (eventually).
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Exactly! I mean, say what you will about the US system taking a while, etc, but I don't ever hear of them refusing Americans from legitimately bringing in their families (eventually).

As much as I would like to agree with this, There is actually legal precedent for the opposite that yes the British citizen may return however that does not automatically entitle their family abode. I tried to find the supreme court docket on it but I am unable to find it. The U.S has similar laws also. There is however a hardship clause both here in the U.K and U.S they work slightly different but basically if you can prove severe hardship which I might add is extremely difficult going by the standards they set as we found out that you can overrule the stipulations on immigrant visas
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the BBC website:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/946400.stm [nofollow]
Human Rights Act: What the articles say

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Article 8: Right to privacy

(1) Everyone has the right for his private and family life, his home and his correspondence.

(2) There shall be no interference by a public authority with the exercise of this right except such as is in accordance with the law and is necessary in a democratic society in the interests of national security, public safety or the economic well-being of the country, for the prevention of disorder or crime, for the protection of health or morals, or for the protection of the rights and freedoms of others.

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Article 12: Marriage and the family

Men and women of marriageable age shall have the right to marry and to found a family, according to national laws governing the exercise of this right.
so this can be waived under immigration law changes appart from

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Article 14: Discrimination

The enjoyment of the rights and freedoms set forth in this convention shall be secured without discrimination on any ground such as sex, race, colour, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, association with a national minority, property, birth or other status.
you can argue discrimination on nationality, American being treated differently than French, German, or Polish


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Except those countries are all in the EU and the US isn't. 

So it would be like saying US citizens are treated differently than those from other places in the world.  And they aren't saying you can't get married, just that can't (possibly) live in the UK. 



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How will these new laws effect people already here on a spouse visa, and expecting to apply for ILR within the original 2 year window? Will they now have to wait the five years? And meet the new income level? Are all of the laws focused upon NEW applicants only? Many thanks!
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I'm waiting to see what the JCWI and FreeMovement Blog have to say because I thought I heard things that I wasn't expecting, such as the end of third party support.


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Yes, she said no more third party support, and it seems like there is no more "considering the spouses ability to earn income in the UK" I think!!!
But savings is considered still.
“It was when I realised I had a new nationality: I was in exile. I am an adulterous resident: when I am in one city, I am dreaming of the other. I am an exile; citizen of the country of longing.” ― Suketu Mehta.

Married 04/13/11, in NYC.
Applied for Spouse Visa the following week, with express service, and I was approved 4 days later!
Arrived in the UK 05/20/11.
I took the stupid LIUK Test Oct. 2012.
We were granted ILR In Person in Croydon on 04/23/13.
Got BRP 2 days later, in mail box - it just appeared.

NEXT: The lil' red passpo


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this is also my concern, I'm not even 1 year into the FLR(m)

looks like i need to get a part time job to make the earnings....


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I am supposed to be applying for ILR in October, will I have to wait 3 more years?  Wondering how much they'll charge when my residence permit expires?
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I have been informed/advised that we may have to wait for more information once it appears on the UK Border Agency site.
“It was when I realised I had a new nationality: I was in exile. I am an adulterous resident: when I am in one city, I am dreaming of the other. I am an exile; citizen of the country of longing.” ― Suketu Mehta.

Married 04/13/11, in NYC.
Applied for Spouse Visa the following week, with express service, and I was approved 4 days later!
Arrived in the UK 05/20/11.
I took the stupid LIUK Test Oct. 2012.
We were granted ILR In Person in Croydon on 04/23/13.
Got BRP 2 days later, in mail box - it just appeared.

NEXT: The lil' red passpo


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I have been informed/advised that we may have to wait for more information once it appears on the UK Border Agency site.
It's now on the UKBA site: http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitecontent/newsarticles/2012/june/13-family-migration

It does say: "Most of these changes will apply to new applicants from 9 July 2012." (emphasis mine)

Plus, from the Statement of Intent on the same page (http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitecontent/documents/news/soi-fam-mig.pdf):
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Application of the new rules
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23. A partner, child or adult dependent relative who has been granted, or who has applied for, leave to enter or remain in the UK on the family route (or a partner of a migrant with leave under the Points Based System) before 9 July 2012 will remain subject to the rules in force prior to that date. They will be able to reach settlement in the UK (including those granted or who have applied for leave as a fiancé(e) or proposed civil partner) if they qualify for it under the rules in force prior to 9 July 2012, subject to the requirement from October 2013 to pass the Life in the UK test and to present an English language speaking and listening qualification at B1 level or above to qualify for settlement.


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