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Re: URGENT: Info Needed re: DIVORCE and CAUTIONARY WARNING
« Reply #15 on: June 27, 2012, 04:47:46 PM »
Tracey, mirrajay, THANKS for the resources, very much... One of them, I did look at last night and it had next to nothing tailored for male victims, and office locations were not in areas I can get transportation to. When it comes to male victims of DV, the UK is light years ahead of the US, or so it seems. :-(

Tracey, yes, I'm still pretty much stranded at my friend's house, but I DID get my own place. I just have to somehow get the "must have" items (bed, Internet access, telephone service, toilet paper, can opener, etc...) before I can move in. Since I can't drive, I'm having to work around his schedule. I HOPE & PRAY I'll be moved in before the 4th, as my friend will be out of town for several days. It's unfortunate timing because it's the anniversary date of my wife's arrival in the US for the month we ended up getting married. The last thing I need is to be isolated and alone in someone else's home on that date, which is so significant for Americans and which would have been a joyful memory had things gone differently.

I have to get some stuff done toward my move now, but will check back later for replies. THANKS for the support - this is a really hard time for me.

Teddy
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Re: URGENT: Info Needed re: DIVORCE and CAUTIONARY WARNING
« Reply #16 on: June 27, 2012, 09:13:10 PM »
Teddy, have you called those organizations?  As a social worker, I've found that many shelters and domestic violence organizations do help men, it just isn't something they advertise as they don't tend to have enough in at the same time to do large scale stuff.  For instance, some of the shelters will have a shelter for the women, but can still help pay for a hotel for men so they can get safe.  I know you aren't looking for shelter, but give them a ring and actually ask them if they know where to go for men to get support.  Even if they don't do stuff themselves, they may be able to point you in the right direction.  If they know there are disability issues as well that made for added vulnerability, that may help you secure help.


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Re: URGENT: Info Needed re: DIVORCE and CAUTIONARY WARNING
« Reply #17 on: June 29, 2012, 04:54:49 PM »
Teddy, have you called those organizations?  As a social worker, I've found that many shelters and domestic violence organizations do help men, it just isn't something they advertise as they don't tend to have enough in at the same time to do large scale stuff.  For instance, some of the shelters will have a shelter for the women, but can still help pay for a hotel for men so they can get safe.  I know you aren't looking for shelter, but give them a ring and actually ask them if they know where to go for men to get support.  Even if they don't do stuff themselves, they may be able to point you in the right direction.  If they know there are disability issues as well that made for added vulnerability, that may help you secure help.

Thank you, Cadenza. I'm juggling SO many things, I have not yet had a chance to contact the organizations. I'm in serious crisis mode, very serious. I've been furiously trying to get myself set up in my new home so I don't completely lose the friendship of my dear friend who's letting me stay with him and eloping me run my shopping errands when he's dead tired from work, and listening ad infinitum to my tears that seem bottomless. I've reached out to a non-DV crisis team, but they've been next to useless, actually making matters worse.

For the past 3 days, I've tried to get help from this crisis team,and each time, I get promises of return phone calls ... But no one ever calls me back. Yesterday, I completely broke down and called my wife, missing her so much, and thinking even the abuse was better than this helplessness and isolation. I maintained no contact for a month because I knew it would be dangerous for me. It always opens the door to oing back to her. I'm certain if I hadn't bought my place this week, I'd already be on a plane back there.

This July 3rd anniversary is really freaking me out. It was the day she arrived for her first visit to the States. I'd actually posted something like "Help Me Be Romantic" on one of the sub-boards that's become very popular here. I hand-made her welcoming posters. I had Hershey's chocolate kisses setting out on the table for her. I'd bought a complete White Musk kit for her, her favorite. I had roses ready for meeting her at the airport. I had helium balloons. And I had the diamond ring ready to give her. I was looking forward to sharing with her the American tradition of July 4th. Then, we went on to get married on the 20th. Now my one friend will be out of town, and I will be utterly alone. I just don't know how I'm going to cope.

Talking to my wife opened up all those doubts and questions. Is she really as bad as it seemed she was? Was everything really all MY fault? Did I screw up the one thing that meant more to me than life itself? I even thought, should I just abandon my new house and get on the next plane to be with her? Which is all utter craziness, because amongst the mean things she's said / done was to claim that she had my visa revoked. I don't even know if that's possible -- I suppose it is... But knowing her as I do, I think it was one of her manipulative lies to hurt me. I'd be more unsafe there than I'd be here, because the second she started screaming at me again, I'd crumble, and t,hat would be it. It's a hellish roller coaster that never ends. Being with her is dangerous and painful. But being without her is equally dangerous and painful -- at least during this anniversary week, and until I can get settled in my home / own space, and until I can rebuild some kind of support network back here in the States, and get the help I need.

Thanks again, Cadenza

Teddy
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Re: URGENT: Info Needed re: DIVORCE and CAUTIONARY WARNING
« Reply #18 on: June 29, 2012, 05:58:12 PM »
I don't have any experience with domestic violence or anything like it. But my grandmother was married to an abusive man for 30 years. My grandfather drank (a lot) and beat her up on a regular basis and also abused her emotionally. She married him 3 times because she just couldn't leave him. She finally divorced him 20 years ago. She always says she feels like she wasted 30 years of her life with that man and that once she finally left him and cut off all contact, it gradually became easier to move on. It's that first part that's the hardest. Don't let her manipulate you into wasting more of your time and energy, you deserve better.


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Re: URGENT: Info Needed re: DIVORCE and CAUTIONARY WARNING
« Reply #19 on: June 29, 2012, 06:42:07 PM »
Is she really as bad as it seemed she was?  She assaulted you, deprived you of food, had you seeking refugee from her in an unfamiliar country and made sure Otis was the last in a string of pets that left that home under mysterious circumstances. I'd say she was at least as bad as she seemed.

As for revoking your spousal visa, she can notify UKBA that the marriage has broken down and you left the country.  Someone who knows more about immigration than I do can address this issue.

Keep moving forward, Teddy!
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Re: URGENT: Info Needed re: DIVORCE and CAUTIONARY WARNING
« Reply #20 on: June 29, 2012, 09:42:25 PM »
You've only been back in the US for a month and you've already bought and moved in to a house?


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Re: URGENT: Info Needed re: DIVORCE and CAUTIONARY WARNING
« Reply #21 on: July 11, 2012, 06:09:06 PM »
God bless to EVERYONE who has responded.  Now so many replies, I can't possibly respond to each individually.  Yes, I've now bought my own little home back in the States, just a 1-bedrrom in a co-operative, which is all I could manage after the devastation.  Had no choice, as I was in danger of the one true friend who has helped through all of this.

The tears are absolutely endless.  There have been nasty texts, emails, and Skype conversations coming back and forth.  The story grows more fantastical than one could even being to imagine.  I had an exchange with her sister in Canada.  My wife had told me her younger sister (some 9 years younger than my wife) had confided in that their brother (two years younger than my wife) had molested the sister when they were kids. When I mentioned this to the sister, she was first of all devastated that her confidence had been broken.  But then she said it wasn't just her brother that had sexually abused her -- my wife had been part of it as well. 

A bit after this, the sister sent me an email saying my wife was seeing another woman.  Of course, despite everything, stupid stopid stupid me, I was hurt.  I emailed my wife, "Is this true?"  Her first email response denied it all.  Then arrived a second email claiming she'd contacted her sister, who denied sending the email -- which I knew (or strongly suspected) was a lie, because her sister had said she'd ended contact with her sister.  Next, my wife demanded to know what I'd sent her sister that spurred her to send the email.  Of course, my wife had no idea that we were in contact, and she tries to manage who talks with who, because that's how her lies get exposed.  But then the LAST email in the string was one saying, "Sorry, I lied. I am seeing someone.  Goodbye." 

After that, the texts have been much more abusive -- language and accusations too vulgar and vile to post here.  Some have asked why I don't just turn off the phone and block her everywhere.  It's really HARD to disentangle from an abusive relationship.  Especially one as severe as this one.  I have talked with a friend who is a psychotherapist by profession.  He's met my wife on several of her trips here to the States, and is the one who took me in when I returned to the States.  He's discussed the circumstances with some of his professional connections, and the consensus seems to be that my wife is a psychopath.

The whole concept sounds very harsh to me.  Though well read, and knowing full well that people really exist who could be labelled or categorized as psychopaths, I'd never, ever met someone like my wife.  Until my wife, the concept was so abstract, more like a fairy tale, or like believing in unicorns -- except unicorns are nice (I think!).  However, now I KNOW that such people exist. 

The problem is that they susss you out when they target you.  They know your every weakness, your every vulnerability.  Though they have no true conscience, no empathy, no understanding of love, they are VERY could at parody.  They can act the part.  Knowing exactly where you are vulnerable, they say and do the things you need to hear.  They are like a drug, like heroin.  Even NOW, I can remember some of the early gestures that suck me in, and cry for what I've lost.  The bad stuff becomes ephemeral.  It flies into vapor, vanishes on the wind.  And I miss her smell, her touch, and the love I thought we had. 

I would urge anyone who is getting involved in a new relationship, ESPECIALLY one that involves trans-Atlantic romance -- BE CAREFUL.  If it were not possible, this site would not exist, and so many of you would not have had happy endings.  However, you may spend hours on Skype, every day, just like I did with my wife before I moved to the UK.  Don't assume that time on Skype and even lengthy visits are enough to reveal a dark heart.  These people will pour on the syrup and the honey until they get you where they want you.  You'll see the cracks in the facade, for sure.  Some of the cracks may be blatant, like my wife lying to me that she owned her home and expanding that lie to unbelievable proportions for more than a year and a half.  But you'll be so entranced, you'll ignore those alarm bells in your gut.  You'll make excuses.  You'll think your partner "has problems," but all s/he needs is someone to love her/him.  You'll think you've discovered enough of the dark side that you have a pretty good idea of what's going on, and maybe you can handle the bad stuff so you can keep getting the good stuff. 

Even as I share this, I know it's going to be futile for almost everyone caught in the wicked web of such a person.  These people are so good at what they do, they are master manipulators.  But if this warning saves even one person the agony and despair I've suffered, it will be worth it.

I'm going to put up a separate post, but what I most need help with is how to go about divorcing my wife.  I was casually talking with someone going through a divorce without the complication of the international factor.  She said the first lawyer she contacted wanted a retainer of $5,000.  I don't have that kind of money!!!  I am FORTUNATE my wife didn't completely wipe me out financially, because that was her ultimate goal.  At least that stirring in my gut served to make me wary.

This is a late-in-life marriage for me, and I know nothing about divorce.  But I need to get this woman extracted from my life as quickly as possible.

Thank you ALL for contributing -- you've all helped.

~Teddy



In the end, the love you take is equal to the love you make.  ~The Beatles


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Re: URGENT: Info Needed re: DIVORCE and CAUTIONARY WARNING
« Reply #22 on: July 12, 2012, 04:43:36 AM »
Get that second phone for your US dealings.  Deal with the other phone at your leisure.  Just because you own a phone doesn't mean you have to answer it.  Just because you get a message doesn't mean you must reply. 

Uninstall or turn off Skype.  If you choose to keep it on your computer, it doesn't mean you must use it. 

You don't have to open any e-mails you don't want either.  If you feel you need them for legal purposes, create a rule making them automatically go to a special folder.  You can deal with that folder when you choose to do so.  You can create a new e-mail account for your new life pretty easily too, just don't give her (or anyone associated with her) the address.   


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