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Re: Typical American
« Reply #60 on: August 09, 2012, 06:03:42 PM »
That's the elite special forces unit that protects innocent pedants from the irrational hatred of those whom they correct, right? 

Would that be 'who' they correct?
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Re: Typical American
« Reply #61 on: August 09, 2012, 06:13:32 PM »
Would that be 'who' they correct?

No, it wouldn't.  But points for effort.
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Re: Typical American
« Reply #62 on: August 09, 2012, 07:58:30 PM »

LOL

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Re: Typical American
« Reply #63 on: August 09, 2012, 09:14:09 PM »
Would that be 'who' they correct?

"Whom" is only used with prepositional phrases (of, with, about). My reading is the same as SoaS in that "who" is linked to "corrected", which doesn't get a preposition and the fact that if followed "of those" is a red herring.


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Re: Typical American
« Reply #64 on: August 09, 2012, 09:29:04 PM »
"Whom" is only used with prepositional phrases (of, with, about). My reading is the same as SoaS in that "who" is linked to "corrected", which doesn't get a preposition and the fact that if followed "of those" is a red herring.

I refer you to the Oxford English Dictionary:

http://oxforddictionaries.com/words/who-or-whom

It's not prepositions that determine who or whom, it's whether the pronoun acts as a subject or an object.  Whom often follows prepositions because prepositions generally precede objects.  In this case, whom is the object of the verb "correct," and they is the subject.  The pedants (they) correct people (those), therefore "those (people) whom they (pedants) correct.   
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Re: Typical American
« Reply #65 on: August 09, 2012, 09:30:33 PM »
"Whom" is only used with prepositional phrases (of, with, about). My reading is the same as SoaS in that "who" is linked to "corrected", which doesn't get a preposition and the fact that if followed "of those" is a red herring.

That's incorrect.  'Whom' is not only used with prepositions or prepositional phrases.  'Whom' is used to replace an object, whereas 'who' is used to replace a subject.  

In the phrase whom they correct, 'they' = subject, 'correct' = verb, and 'whom' = object.

In the phrase who corrected them, 'who' = subject, 'corrected' = verb, and 'them' = object.


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Re: Typical American
« Reply #66 on: August 09, 2012, 09:33:06 PM »
I love it when threads take a grammarly turn!  ;D

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Re: Typical American
« Reply #67 on: August 09, 2012, 09:47:11 PM »
I support noirem....and that makes it two all.
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Re: Typical American
« Reply #68 on: August 09, 2012, 09:48:20 PM »
I support noirem....and that makes it two all.

We have the OED on our side, and that trumps everything. 
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Re: Typical American
« Reply #69 on: August 09, 2012, 09:52:51 PM »
I support noirem....and that makes it two all.

It's actually three to two.  But clearly the official rules trump everyone.


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Re: Typical American
« Reply #70 on: August 09, 2012, 09:53:55 PM »
I just read my husband this thread, because I thought it was really cute and funny, and he said, "Whom cares"!

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Re: Typical American
« Reply #71 on: August 09, 2012, 10:03:02 PM »
I'm lost  [smiley=help.gif]
The rules of grammar =  [smiley=end.gif]
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Re: Typical American
« Reply #72 on: August 10, 2012, 12:12:57 AM »
I love it when threads take a grammarly turn!  ;D

P.S.  I agree with historyenne and geeta.

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Re: Typical American
« Reply #73 on: August 10, 2012, 04:52:57 AM »
I'm lost  [smiley=help.gif]
The rules of grammar =  [smiley=end.gif]

This!  :)

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Re: Typical American
« Reply #74 on: August 10, 2012, 07:20:02 AM »
We have the OED on our side, and that trumps everything. 

 ;D LOL  ;D


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