From Florida moving on a spouse visa to Greater Manchester

You seem to read what you want and not in detail. As stated, I HAVE EU FAMILY all thoughout the UK. Did I lie when I said to visit family....No. Nothing was stated on the purpose of Marriage and as I stated..... I DID NOT KNOW ABOUT WANTING TO MARRY IN THE UK or AMERICA. Once I decided, alternative legal steps were taken.... Once again did I lie?.....No. All information on the alternative legal steps were advised by the UKBA Home Office and my local courts in the region of my family. Please read my post carefully and so that it would give you a better understanding.

I actually did read your post carefully, so you don't have to keep requesting that I do so.

So what you are saying is that you entered the UK with no thought that you might get married while you were there, but then you decided to marry on that trip - on the spur of the moment. Interesting.

Being there 3 times often with the last time nearly the who 6 months allowed. Could a relationship not of been taking place? I mean really, you have no argument and can't label me because of fact proved to the UKBA. Done trying to explain with total ignorance..... face up I am legal

I'm sorry, but I never said you were illegal or anything of the sort. Perhaps you should read my post carefully. I have no reason to try and label you.

Of course a relationship develops over a number of visits.  The unusual thing is a couple deciding to marry at the spur of the moment.  Does it happen?  Yes, of course.  Is it usual? No.  Most couples plan weddings in advance.

Apology accepted. Though my legal career was based in America. My experience in the field, courts and a law firm though not based in immigration. The operations are very close regarding both the USA and case law as a whole. While visiting family over 3 long visits, yes a relationship took place in which the unsure of a place or country of a marriage was decided during my last 6 month period. My EU family surrounds the UK in Scotland Manchester, ireland and wales with other family in the Netherlands

Nothing was stated on the purpose of Marriage and as I stated..... I DID NOT KNOW ABOUT WANTING TO MARRY IN THE UK or AMERICA. Once I decided, alternative legal steps were taken.... Once again did I lie?.....No. All information on the alternative legal steps were advised by the UKBA Home Office and my local courts in the region of my family. Please read my post carefully and so that it would give you a better understanding.

Okay, so you have given specific step-by-step instructions for how to bypass getting a fiance visa, but then say that you didn't take those steps at all and did everything a completely different way? 

Just to point out though, that some of the steps you listed are not actually correct:

(1) Enter the UK on a visitors visa. Getting past UKBA at the border is a challenging one and they will turn you back if they know a marriage is planned.

First off, how do you know this? You just said that you had no intention of getting married when you entered the UK, so how do you know that getting past UKBA is challenging... because obviously you had no trouble getting past them due to the fact that you were not going to be getting married in the UK anyway and presumably you wouldn't have even considered that it might be difficult to get past them if they knew a marriage was planned.

(2) Once a person is in the UK for one month, both partners can go to apply for the "Intent to Marry" being that Americans need this being non EU. The intent to marry is what to fiancee visa is actually for. UKBA advised me while I was there, that they can not stop a marriage from being performed in the UK if one is on a visitors visa if the intent was in place.

This is incorrect - you do not have to be in the UK for one month and you don't apply for an 'intent to marry'.

You just need 7 days residency in the UK, and then you can 'give notice to marry'.

This is not what the fiance visa is for - the fiance visa gives you permission to marry in the UK if you do not already live here on another visa (same as the visit for marriage visa)... but even if you have a fiance visa, you still need 7 days residency in the UK and you still need to 'give notice to marry', so the fiance visa makes no difference in this respect - you still have to take these steps, with or without it.

(3) After the Intent of marriage is ordered, there is a mandatory 16 day waiting period before a marriage can take place.

Actually it's 15 days, not 16.

Financially if done right, like I went through triple AAA for cheap flights, it comes out to the same price but instead of paying for the fiancee visa, the same money goes to the couples airflights round trip for the honeymoon during the wait of the spouse visa process.

There are actually 4 different options for getting married, and they are all perfectly allowable and don't involve taking any sneaky steps... it just depends on your circumstances as to which option you should be taking:

1) If you know you want to marry in the UK and do not want to have to return to  the US to apply for a spousal visa:
Apply for a fiance visa (£826), fly to the UK, wait 7 days, give notice to marry, wait 15 days, marry in the UK, stay in the UK to apply for the FLR(M) visa (£561 by post, £867 in person).

2) If you will be visiting the UK and know in advance that you wish to get married there:
Apply for a visit for marriage visa (£78) before you leave. Then fly to the UK, wait 7 days, give notice to marry, wait 15 days, marry in the UK, fly back to the US, apply for a spousal visa (£826), fly back to the UK

3) If you do not want the hassle of meeting the residency requirements to marry in the UK:
The UK citizen flies to the US on a visitor visa, you wait 24-72 hours (depending on the laws of the state), marry in the US, then apply for spousal visa (£826), and move to the UK.

4) If you fly to the UK as a visitor, with no intention of getting married at the time you enter the UK, but while in the UK, you decide you would like to get married:
After a minimum of 7 days of residency, give notice to marry, wait 15 days, marry in the UK, fly back to the US, apply for spousal visa (£826), fly back to the UK.

OK Bottom line, I did not join these forums to be attacked by anyone, only to meet other Americans. To me what I see so far is a bunch of on line warriors who are not UKBA, did not issue my visa or work in the courts. I learned these steps after the fact on being in the UK my last 6 months. Did I do these steps after  the fact yes. Guess what, call the UKBA home office yourself and ask the question. "If my partner is already in the UK, can we me married?" That is what they explained and about the intent on non EU with the courts. If you wish to attack over stupidity , then fine do it elsewhere. I never came to these threads for advise and keeping it that way. I came to communicate.

Step 4 is very similar to what I did. Never seen the guidelines myself but even your guidelines prove my point

I didn't say you did anything wrong - it was just that the tone of your step-by-step guide made it sound like you had found some sneaky way to circumvent the visa rules (which you hadn't) and that you lied to UK immigration about getting married (which you didn't).

What you did was perfectly legal and there was no issue with it at all - providing you had no intention of marrying in the UK when you first entered the country, you were fine to marry without a fiance visa or a visit for marriage visa (since they abolished the Certificate of Approval for marrying in the UK a couple of years ago, there is nothing officially stopping visitors from getting married - however, if you know before you enter the UK that you want to marry there, you must get a fiance visa or a visit for marriage visa first).

The thing is that the steps you outlined a few posts ago, the process that you said you took yourself in order to skip getting a fiance visa, were actually:
a) not what you did (because you had no intention of 'skipping the fiance visa' when you entered the UK and were not intending on marrying)
and
b) suggesting that other people use deception to enter the UK (i.e. knowing they want to marry, but not telling immigration that)... which could get them banned from the UK for 10 years.

I learned all this not by reading up, but calling about after 4 months into my last stay. So not at all was this intended. The UKBA Home office advised me of this verbally. The person at the registrars office in Manchester informed both my wife and I that prior to his position with the courts, he worked for UKBA. He clearly advised on the 1 month mark of living there before the Intent was done. He never advised on the 7 day period I read just now and I may have been mistaken on the 15 day mark after the intent. I thought it was 16. I was advised on the returning back to the States to fulfill the spouse visa which was all fine and dandy. The steps I did learn verbally and never specialized in immigration within my career, did pass by and cleared the spouse visa which I was grateful for.