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american person coming to the uk
« on: November 08, 2014, 02:53:33 PM »
hi all not sure if I'm in the right place but I know this american lady we have been talking and videoing for about a year and half now and she is planing on coming to stay with me for 3 months in December and really don't want her to be turn away when she lands here at Heathrow she will be staying with me at my home in Birmingham and at first I thought that she wouldn't need any visa but now I'm not sure what she will need to be able to stay with me and eventually she will be coming to live with me in the UK hopefully within 2 years I would really appreciate any help on what she will need or what I need to do or if she can just come and stay with out doing anything
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Re: american person coming to the uk
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2014, 03:53:12 PM »
Hi, welcome to the forums!

She will definitely need a visa; it's a question whether to apply for one in advance before travelling, or showing up at the border and getting one there after speaking to the immigration officer (IO).  For most people, it's the latter.  They land at Heathrow, have a 5-minute chat with the IO about their intentions visiting the UK, and if the IO is satisfied they aren't an immigration risk, gives them a stamp in their passport that admits them for up to 6 months.

Generally speaking, you don't need a visa in advance unless you have previous adverse UK immigration history (like a previous refused entry, or previously refused visa application).  You can apply for one in advance if you wish for the peace of mind, but it's not necessary.

She'll need to be able to demonstrate strong ties to the US when she arrives to be granted entry.  The IO must be satisfied that she's visiting the UK and fully intends to return to the US at the end of her visit.  She must be able to show that she has things to return to in the US like a job, home to take care of, etc.  She'll need to show she can financially support herself throughout her stay, can pay for any NHS treatment if needed, and will not be working in any capacity (no volunteering, no working remotely online - nothing).  She'll have to show she has a place to stay - if with you, it would be helpful to write a letter of support stating so.

The longer she intends to stay, the more ties she must demonstrate to the US.  Someone staying for 3 weeks will encounter less scrutiny at the border than someone proposing to stay 3 months.     


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Re: american person coming to the uk
« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2014, 04:23:44 PM »
just wanted to thank you for you reply


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Re: american person coming to the uk
« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2014, 10:35:59 AM »
It would also be wise to show that she knows the rules - how long she can stay in the UK as a visitor, that she can't work or volunteer as a visitor (as Aquila said), what she needs to do to move to the UK permanently if you're hoping to do so in the next two years and that if she does apply for a fiancée/spouse visa she needs to do so from the US (she can't change from a visitor visa to any other visa in the UK).

If the IO is aware that she knows the rules, there's less of a chance of her being turned around at the border. ;)
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Re: american person coming to the uk
« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2014, 12:14:08 PM »
thank you for your reply's she does know the rules and she does have family in the USA like kids her mom and she is going to go back her return ticket is already booked we are planing to go to the american embassy in London before she goes back to see what we need to do so she can come and live here in the UK she also does what to bring her kids with her would that be a problem? also she is married but separated and as he is abusive she does have prove she was wondering if she can file for her divorce when she moves her in two years ? thank you any advice would be appreciate
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Re: american person coming to the uk
« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2014, 12:55:46 PM »
The American Embassy has nothing to do with her being able get a visa to live in the UK.  She needs to qualify for a visa and there are few options: spouse, student, work, investor or entrepreneur.   She'll need a visa before she can come to the UK long term. 
« Last Edit: November 17, 2014, 01:00:14 PM by Anonymiss »


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Re: american person coming to the uk
« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2014, 01:34:34 PM »
And to 'formalize the obvious' she cannot get a spouse visa if she is still married....
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Re: american person coming to the uk
« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2014, 03:58:19 PM »
thank you for your reply's she does know the rules and she does have family in the USA like kids her mom and she is going to go back her return ticket is already booked we are planing to go to the american embassy in London before she goes back to see what we need to do so she can come and live here in the UK she also does what to bring her kids with her would that be a problem? also she is married but separated and as he is abusive she does have prove she was wondering if she can file for her divorce when she moves her in two years ? thank you any advice would be appreciate
                                      thank you for your help     

Yes, as Anonymiss stated, the American Embassy in London will have nothing to do with her getting a visa to live in the UK, so save yourself the trip.  And she must be divorced before she can apply for a spousal visa, so she can't file for divorce after she moves.  She needs to divorce and then apply for the visa, and then she can move once the visa has been approved.


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