UK driving law for Americans on a visitors visa

I'm a Brit, born and bread, Anglo Saxon from the Shire's, so I dont need to scam the Law, so lets look at what I need, and take that back to basics one line of the law to simplify for you......

a born a bread citizen???

Unless you're a baked good, you mean bred.
(not to be pedantic, but homonyms are important)

Why mention he was a Scott?

"I knew a Welshman once, would steal the fillings out of yer teeth, got bunged with a load of copper wire...."

I'm assuming he must be referring to someone with the surname Scott, as opposed to a Scot. 

Oh, who am I kidding?  It's because, obviously, anyone who isn't an 'Anglo Saxon from the Shires' isn't really, properly British, and it's important to be clear about these things.  I mean, it goes without saying that Scottish, Welsh, or Northern Irish folks aren't the 'right sort,' but it's worth reminding people that simply living somewhere in England isn't enough.  There are plenty of undesirables there, too, so you simply must be specific when you're trying to prove your bona fides to strangers on the internet (who can't see how white you are).


To the OP, we're all very sorry that your relationship didn't work out, and that you feel you were taken advantage of, and your family disrupted by your ex, who happened to be American.  That sort of thing is never easy.

But you appear to be trying to make yourself feel better by coming onto this forum and scolding all of us arrogant, selfish, scofflaw Americans for a slew of vague offenses that you imagine we're out committing, up and down the country, whilst we laugh gleefully at our poor, 'born and bread' British (which, I sense, you equate with 'Anglo Saxon from the Shires') victims.

It's insulting, and it's also a waste of your time and energy. 

If your ex is still in the UK, or is still making frequent visits, then report her to someone who might care: the police, the Border Agency, the DVLA...heck, talk to a lawyer and find out if you can sue her yourself.  (She certainly seems to have caused you emotional distress.)  You can comfort yourself with visions of her dragged off in handcuffs and deported, with a sharply-worded note from the Queen tied around her neck, and a stamp on her forehead reading 'Bloody Colonial.'

Or, you could just let it go.  Accept that there are people in the world-- of every conceivable nationality, ethnicity, race, gender and socio-economic class-- who are just Not Nice.  They don't think about rules, consequences, or other people's feelings, and the worst part is, they seem to get away with it.  It's not fair, but it is reality.  You can either spend your time obsessing over the injustice of it all, and looking for revenge, or you can call it a life lesson and move on, hopefully better able to avoid people like that in the future.

(FYI, in case it's still unclear: 'people like that' does not equal Americans, as a whole, but very well could equal other 'Anglo Saxons from the Shires.')

(Also, FYI: 'Anglo Saxon from the Shires' just sounds like 'hobbit.'  We're all picturing you as short & round, with large, hairy, bare feet.  And probably laughing at you.)

(Am I the only one now picturing Nick Griffin as a hobbit?  It totally fits.)
(Not Nigel, though.  I see him as more of an orc.)

So Phil... if you have all this knowledge about the law, etc, why have you asked the question?

Erm lets be clear, I have said my opinion only, and ended my posts with "I say..." not quoted the relevant paragraph of the Law...I was kinda hoping folks like you that had to fight your legal way through the relevant Law would be more helpful instead of my having to go see John Glenn (my MP) and sight you the Law to you

You came onto a forum pretending not to know about a subject so you could later pontificate about that same subject?

You've got too much free time, Phil.

erm no, I dont have the free time I would like, hence I end up answering three posts or more at a time.....I am not pontificating...I'm asking YOU if you know the UK Law...your answer could be very simple to that mate

Why mention he was a Scott?

"I knew a Welshman once, would steal the fillings out of yer teeth, got bunged with a load of copper wire...."

Good question, I was tired n worn out the other night, maybe I should not have mentioned that as you point out? I rang Jock, today, explained what I'd said online and your answer, he giggled like a b*tch and called me an English *****#....I reminded him of the battle of Culleden :v he said he aint got a problem and wanted to know what yours was? :v

I still say...without sighting the Law...an American on a visitors Visa cant legally buy/own and insure a car in the UK? sight me the law where you can or dont troll my thread :*

I'm assuming he must be referring to someone with the surname Scott, as opposed to a Scot. 

Oh, who am I kidding?  It's because, obviously, anyone who isn't an 'Anglo Saxon from the Shires' isn't really, properly British, and it's important to be clear about these things.  I mean, it goes without saying that Scottish, Welsh, or Northern Irish folks aren't the 'right sort,' but it's worth reminding people that simply living somewhere in England isn't enough.  There are plenty of undesirables there, too, so you simply must be specific when you're trying to prove your bona fides to strangers on the internet (who can't see how white you are).


To the OP, we're all very sorry that your relationship didn't work out, and that you feel you were taken advantage of, and your family disrupted by your ex, who happened to be American.  That sort of thing is never easy.

But you appear to be trying to make yourself feel better by coming onto this forum and scolding all of us arrogant, selfish, scofflaw Americans for a slew of vague offenses that you imagine we're out committing, up and down the country, whilst we laugh gleefully at our poor, 'born and bread' British (which, I sense, you equate with 'Anglo Saxon from the Shires') victims.

It's insulting, and it's also a waste of your time and energy. 

If your ex is still in the UK, or is still making frequent visits, then report her to someone who might care: the police, the Border Agency, the DVLA...heck, talk to a lawyer and find out if you can sue her yourself.  (She certainly seems to have caused you emotional distress.)  You can comfort yourself with visions of her dragged off in handcuffs and deported, with a sharply-worded note from the Queen tied around her neck, and a stamp on her forehead reading 'Bloody Colonial.'

Or, you could just let it go.  Accept that there are people in the world-- of every conceivable nationality, ethnicity, race, gender and socio-economic class-- who are just Not Nice.  They don't think about rules, consequences, or other people's feelings, and the worst part is, they seem to get away with it.  It's not fair, but it is reality.  You can either spend your time obsessing over the injustice of it all, and looking for revenge, or you can call it a life lesson and move on, hopefully better able to avoid people like that in the future.

(FYI, in case it's still unclear: 'people like that' does not equal Americans, as a whole, but very well could equal other 'Anglo Saxons from the Shires.')

(Also, FYI: 'Anglo Saxon from the Shires' just sounds like 'hobbit.'  We're all picturing you as short & round, with large, hairy, bare feet.  And probably laughing at you.)

(Am I the only one now picturing Nick Griffin as a hobbit?  It totally fits.)
(Not Nigel, though.  I see him as more of an orc.)

You simply could not be further from the Gods given honest truth if you tried, yet it's you guys that say I have to much time!!! how is it that Yanks say they are from Scotland or Ireland? and rightly proud so, yet I can not mention my birth right? seems like a one way street to me from your part, I am part Anglo Saxon, part French, part Welsh with life long loving Scottish friends...you seem like someone thats not going to stick to the OP but rather try and derail coz you dont like the Gods honest truth....so instead of trying to publicly putting me down...how about you YOURSELF MAN UP....sight me the Law...prove me wrong about the law...or simply admit you dont have a clue and find another thread

Best regards, Phil.

Can I ask why someone who doesn't live here would want to own a car here?

Coz it's sight cheaper than renting one? I mean truly it is....but my question is about if it's legal not thier reason nor intent

Regards, Phil.

Unless you're a baked good, you mean bred.
(not to be pedantic, but homonyms are important)

lmao yes omg the first correct and Gods honest answer on this thread, 100% on the money, I bow to you as being correct, life is about truth and help, you have done just that though us natives did need bread while being bred, so please excuse my confusion ) I am always looking to better myself weather that be through the written word or knowing the Law, so invite YOU to please correct me if I'm wrong again thank you.

I'm assuming he must be referring to someone with the surname Scott, as opposed to a Scot. 

Oh, who am I kidding?  It's because, obviously, anyone who isn't an 'Anglo Saxon from the Shires' isn't really, properly British, and it's important to be clear about these things.  I mean, it goes without saying that Scottish, Welsh, or Northern Irish folks aren't the 'right sort,' but it's worth reminding people that simply living somewhere in England isn't enough.  There are plenty of undesirables there, too, so you simply must be specific when you're trying to prove your bona fides to strangers on the internet (who can't see how white you are).


To the OP, we're all very sorry that your relationship didn't work out, and that you feel you were taken advantage of, and your family disrupted by your ex, who happened to be American.  That sort of thing is never easy.

But you appear to be trying to make yourself feel better by coming onto this forum and scolding all of us arrogant, selfish, scofflaw Americans for a slew of vague offenses that you imagine we're out committing, up and down the country, whilst we laugh gleefully at our poor, 'born and bread' British (which, I sense, you equate with 'Anglo Saxon from the Shires') victims.

It's insulting, and it's also a waste of your time and energy. 

If your ex is still in the UK, or is still making frequent visits, then report her to someone who might care: the police, the Border Agency, the DVLA...heck, talk to a lawyer and find out if you can sue her yourself.  (She certainly seems to have caused you emotional distress.)  You can comfort yourself with visions of her dragged off in handcuffs and deported, with a sharply-worded note from the Queen tied around her neck, and a stamp on her forehead reading 'Bloody Colonial.'

Or, you could just let it go.  Accept that there are people in the world-- of every conceivable nationality, ethnicity, race, gender and socio-economic class-- who are just Not Nice.  They don't think about rules, consequences, or other people's feelings, and the worst part is, they seem to get away with it.  It's not fair, but it is reality.  You can either spend your time obsessing over the injustice of it all, and looking for revenge, or you can call it a life lesson and move on, hopefully better able to avoid people like that in the future.

(FYI, in case it's still unclear: 'people like that' does not equal Americans, as a whole, but very well could equal other 'Anglo Saxons from the Shires.')

(Also, FYI: 'Anglo Saxon from the Shires' just sounds like 'hobbit.'  We're all picturing you as short & round, with large, hairy, bare feet.  And probably laughing at you.)

(Am I the only one now picturing Nick Griffin as a hobbit?  It totally fits.)
(Not Nigel, though.  I see him as more of an orc.)

 must admit your post on my thread is acidic to say the least from the very start, I can assure you the only folk laughing are doing so at you, you use terms above like "we're all picturing you..." but only in your head Gump...do you speak for an entire forum? I would love to see the collective mind lmao, but I think not, but maybe in your little Hitler head you think you're correct outside the law? so instead of being a clever little dick why not just sight me and post the relevant UK Law and prove me wrong? I dont think you can coz you're wrong and also whats worst about Americans trying to scam the dream and holiday ....I really dont have time to argue with fools, so I'll gladly shake your hand and wave you good bye......then I can help law abiding Yanks with the UK law fool free

I can assure you the only folk laughing are doing so at you

What? Do you speak for the whole forum, now? I'm laughing with woadgrrl, not at, I can assure you.

This whole thing is a windup, right?  I mean "Phil" isn't a real person - he's an internet troll.

Oh, I'll play ball.

Owning a vehicle in the UK without valid insurance is illegal.    There's your law.

But I don't feel bad about your situation (well, not after your comments).  You are the one who decided to form a relationship with this woman.  I even bet you were present when she was purchasing these vehicles and listing your address as her residence.  If you no longer want to be tied to this situation, call the companies sending letters and write them back explaining this person has never been a resident at your address and to cease sending anything further.

Where are the cars now?

As an avid watcher of Top Gear, they are ALWAYS promoting buying a vehicle instead of hiring a vehicle for foreign road trips.  They obviously don't touch on the legalities of this.  Maybe she watches too.  

Good question, I was tired n worn out the other night, maybe I should not have mentioned that as you point out? I rang Jock, today, explained what I'd said online and your answer, he giggled like a b*tch and called me an English *****#....I reminded him of the battle of Culleden :v he said he aint got a problem and wanted to know what yours was? :v

He was probably crying inside though. I think next time you see him you should go up and hug him, hold him close, then look him in his eyes and say, "Jock, my lovely Jock, I know I have caused you pain....please forgive me.....for Culloden and everything."

The healing has to begin somewhere...

weather that be through the written word or knowing the Law, so invite YOU to please correct me if I'm wrong again thank you.

Again, with the homonyms... weather takes place outside. You mean "whether."

Again, with the homonyms... weather takes place outside. You mean "whether."

While we're being pedantic if you are asking for a reference to something it's "cite," not "sight."  Sight is for seeing, not referencing.

Also, you seem to think that the word "law" needs to be capitalised for some reason. It's a common noun, not a proper one, so it should not be capitalised.

I usually try to keep my snarky grammar and spelling related comments to myself, but you're so unpleasant that I just couldn't help myself.

ETA: This is a response to the OP's general ignorance, not the person I quoted.