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Re: Now asking for NHS surcharge when it was $0 for 15 year old?
« Reply #30 on: September 01, 2016, 04:39:41 PM »
It's a shame in this day and age that people are so afraid of others coming to live in their country.

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Re: Now asking for NHS surcharge when it was $0 for 15 year old?
« Reply #31 on: September 01, 2016, 04:48:39 PM »
Here are some details on adopting a step-child  in the UK.

https://www.gov.uk/child-adoption/adopting-a-stepchild


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Re: Now asking for NHS surcharge when it was $0 for 15 year old?
« Reply #32 on: September 01, 2016, 04:50:37 PM »
Couldn't agree more.  People are unnecessarily scared of immigration, when really it helps create a healthy economy.

Why do you think Trump has got so much support?


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Re: Now asking for NHS surcharge when it was $0 for 15 year old?
« Reply #33 on: September 01, 2016, 05:20:28 PM »
Why do you think Trump has got so much support?

Because you could take what you said two different ways, I gotta ask. Are you literally asking why Trump has a ridiculous amount of support or saying you think it's why he has the support he has?

As seen from Trump rally footage, a good portion of Trump supporters are anti-immigration as well. They want people to 'go back home' even when they were BORN in the US. They don't mind people who come over who speak very good English and happen to have light skin... but if you have quite the accent and a darker complexion... They don't want you in America. It kind of sounds a lot like UKIP, if you ask me.

It's embarrassing how many people now find it okay to verbalise their hate due to Donald Trump. This actually happened in the town where I'm from in Colorado. I was horrified.
http://www.gjsentinel.com/news/articles/wetback-video-rant-goes-viral
The usual. American girl meets British guy. They fall into like, then into love. Then there was the big decision. The American traveled across the pond to join the Brit. And life was never the same again.


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Re: Now asking for NHS surcharge when it was $0 for 15 year old?
« Reply #34 on: September 01, 2016, 10:34:54 PM »
Been together 10 years and father died last year, step father can sponsor them on a visa: there is no way that is going to be seen as a scam. It's seems to be when they want to adopt a child of a family member when that child doesn't qualfiy for a visa, that it is a problem.

Adopting his stepchild and getting a British passport, will not be seen as a shortcut to the UK as it won't be quicker than the visas they have applied for. Plus they won't get the fee back if they withdraw the application.

I really can't see how this will be a problem. There are quite a few on other forums who were adopted by a British citizen and then came to the UK as adults with their spouse.

I am so happy to know this! He's been wanting my husband to adopt him for awhile, before the UK was even an option. We just ran out of time before we could get it done here, as I told my son he needed to wait to make sure that's what he really wanted. He's not changed his mind, and it's definitely not to avoid immigration. Just a natural progression. 😊
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Re: Now asking for NHS surcharge when it was $0 for 15 year old?
« Reply #35 on: September 02, 2016, 12:00:22 PM »
Just a natural progression. 😊

Of course it is. Nobody is going to see your son's adoption as an immigration scam. My friend's 10 year old daughter was adopted by her new husband as soon as they married. He had been raising her for 3 years before that anyway and thought of her as his own.

Although they used as solicitor for the adoption, you might want to ask on this forum to see how they arranged their adoptions.
http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/forumdisplay.php?f=24

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Re: Now asking for NHS surcharge when it was $0 for 15 year old?
« Reply #36 on: September 02, 2016, 12:24:17 PM »
Of course it is. Nobody is going to see your son's adoption as an immigration scam. My friend's 10 year old daughter was adopted by her new husband as soon as they married. He had been raising her for 3 years before that anyway and thought of her as his own.

Although they used as solicitor for the adoption, you might want to ask on this forum to see how they arranged their adoptions.
http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/forumdisplay.php?f=24

Warning! That site is addictive! :)

Sorry to have made it seem like it wouldn't be possible!  I'm glad Sirius had the right data to back things up for you.  :)


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« Reply #37 on: September 02, 2016, 01:57:21 PM »
Because you could take what you said two different ways, I gotta ask. Are you literally asking why Trump has a ridiculous amount of support or saying you think it's why he has the support he has?

The former. I spent Christmas with some Mexican/British friends and they have family in the US.

They don't mind people who come over who speak very good English and happen to have light skin... but if you have quite the accent and a darker complexion... They don't want you in America. It kind of sounds a lot like UKIP, if you ask me.

So what is happening in the US in some places, is it just based on colour of skin?

UKIP has a lot of supporters who are Asian British and Black British. UKIP (UK Independence Party) is about the UK wanting to be independent from the EU. The EU is now 27 European countries who have joined together, first for trade and now some of that group want to keep furthering integration to try to make that European Union, one country. i.e. same taxes, same laws, same currency (we already know that will never work because of the different economies). European ancestry is different shades of white, from the darker shade of white from the southern countries like Spain and Greece, to the lightest shades of white as you go further north i.e. Sweden. Nature coping with the different climates.


It's embarrassing how many people now find it okay to verbalise their hate due to Donald Trump. This actually happened in the town where I'm from in Colorado. I was horrified.
http://www.gjsentinel.com/news/articles/wetback-video-rant-goes-viral


Pure ignorance. I loved the "speak English". That shows how stupid the abusers are if they don't know that the US doesn't have it's own language. ;D Countries that are built on immigration are going to have a lot of different languages from other countries and not everyone is going to speak the same imported language.

I had the misfortune to see a small part of a Jerry Springer show when I was flicking channels, which seemed to be filmed a long time ago, but there was someone ranting about Mexicans speaking Spanish in the US. Do the Spanish in the US get picked on for speaking their own language? Or the Italians for speaking Italian? Or is it just the darker skinned people like Mexicans, who happen to speak the Spanish language?
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Re: Now asking for NHS surcharge when it was $0 for 15 year old?
« Reply #38 on: September 02, 2016, 02:15:32 PM »
Hate to take the OP's thread down the rabbit hole, but here we go!   ;D

I don't get the "Make America Great Again" slogan.  When was it great?  Before we allowed same sex marriage and basically told people that love is only acceptable with the opposite sex only?  Or when there was segregation and we had separate restrooms and transport?  Or when we were in a world war?  Or when we were in a Civil War?

If anything, America is moving from good to great because it is FINALLY starting to be more progressive about equality. 

I'm not a Trump supporter.  I don't like him.  Never have, never will.  But I think he's going to win the election by a landslide!


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Re: Now asking for NHS surcharge when it was $0 for 15 year old?
« Reply #39 on: September 02, 2016, 03:23:45 PM »
"On the basis of their extensive study of data on the subject, in 2014 the political scientists Matthew Goodwin and Robert Ford concluded that "UKIP's support has a very clear social profile, more so than any of the mainstream parties. Their electoral base is old, male, working class, white and less educated".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UK_Independence_Party#Support


"Trump’s core constituency is clear: Republican whites, particularly men, and especially those who didn’t go to college"

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/05/donald-trump-and-the-twilight-of-white-america/482655/
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Re: Now asking for NHS surcharge when it was $0 for 15 year old?
« Reply #40 on: September 02, 2016, 03:24:30 PM »


UKIP has a lot of supporters who are Asian British and Black British. UKIP (UK Independence Party) is about the UK wanting to be independent from the EU.


Pure ignoranc


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Re: Now asking for NHS surcharge when it was $0 for 15 year old?
« Reply #41 on: September 02, 2016, 03:38:51 PM »
The former. I spent Christmas with some Mexican/British friends and they have family in the US.

So what is happening in the US in some places, is it just based on colour of skin?

UKIP has a lot of supporters who are Asian British and Black British. UKIP (UK Independence Party) is about the UK wanting to be independent from the EU.

I agree with much of your post but not this.  The Asian and black supporters of UKIP were just as racist, they just wanted to pull up the ladder they had climbed themselves.  They were seeking to show that they were real British by differentiating themselves from those dirty immigrants. 

I saw the billboard ad from UKIP in the closing days of the election, it was obvious that they were seeking the anti immigrant vote.  Anyone supporting that party from an anti Europe point of view should have known the real deal at that point. 

By the way, I saw you out and about the other day



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Re: Now asking for NHS surcharge when it was $0 for 15 year old?
« Reply #42 on: September 02, 2016, 03:59:24 PM »
The former. I spent Christmas with some Mexican/British friends and they have family in the US.

So what is happening in the US in some places, is it just based on colour of skin?

Pure ignorance. I loved the "speak English". That shows how stupid the abusers are if they don't know that the US doesn't have it's own language. ;D Countries that are built on immigration are going to have a lot of different languages from other countries and not everyone is going to speak the same imported language.

I had the misfortune to see a small part of a Jerry Springer show when I was flicking channels, which seemed to be filmed a long time ago, but there was someone ranting about Mexicans speaking Spanish in the US. Do the Spanish in the US get picked on for speaking their own language? Or the Italians for speaking Italian? Or is it just the darker skinned people like Mexicans, who happen to speak the Spanish language?

Well, the US has had a very anti-immigration stance for pretty much the last century and longer. Not to say that we didn't HAVE immigration, because we still had a LOT, I mean vast swathes of the US were unclaimed throughout our history and ANYONE could come over as long as they were interested in homesteading. But he people who already lived here didn't want the new immigrants and had horrible views of them.

- Asians moving over during the Wild West/Gold Rush times - lots of laws to make their lives difficult.
- The Irish immigrating during the Famine years. They were hated by a LOT of people. Have you seen Blazing Saddles? They make a 'joke about being willing to take the blacks and the Chinese but not the Irish. Seriously. It happened in the movie and it absolutely happened in real life.



- Then all of the hispanics moving to America from Puerto Rico, and other Caribbean countries, were treated terribly. 
 
- The Greeks were looked down on, the Italians were looked down on. We didn't have a lot of immigrants from Spain, I think mostly in part to how Communist/Fascist they were and a lot of their immigrants probably went to South American instead... Our Spanish speakers are mostly from Latin and South America.

Anyone who moves to America and doesn't speak English will get told at some time in their lives to 'learn the language.' Basically, if you weren't born in America you were treated poorly by someone.

I personally believe if you are going to move to a country, you should learn the language. I would be expected to learn French if I moved to France. I wouldn't expect people to speak English, though I know many of them do. But I would REALLY try to be fluent in French as soon as possible.

And no, at a federal level there isn't an 'official language' but 32 states have designated English as the official language. And I have to say, I was taught in school that English is the official language of the US. I guess all of my teachers over stepped themselves there...
When 80% of the country speaks  only English in teh home, it's as good as the official language.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_the_United_States

By the way... the United Kingdom doesn't have an official language either... It only has a national langauge of English, just like the US.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_the_United_Kingdom
The de facto official language of the United Kingdom is English,[3][4] which is spoken by approximately 59.8 million residents, or 98% of the population, over the age of three.[1][2][10][11][12] An estimated 700,000 people speak Welsh in the UK,[13] an official language in Wales,[14] and the only de jure official language in any part of the UK.[15] Approximately 1.5 million people in the UK speak Scots—although there is debate as to whether this is a distinct language, or a variety of English.[5][16]

And during the main 'melting pot' years EVERYONE who came to America learned English so they would better fit into the country. Some refused to teach their children the language of their grandparents so they would fit in and be better American citizens.
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The usual. American girl meets British guy. They fall into like, then into love. Then there was the big decision. The American traveled across the pond to join the Brit. And life was never the same again.


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Re: Now asking for NHS surcharge when it was $0 for 15 year old?
« Reply #43 on: September 02, 2016, 04:14:15 PM »
My masters is in International Business.  The big thing professors used to always teach was:  What do you call someone who speaks two languages?  bilingual.  What do you call someone who speaks three languages?  trilingual.  What do you call someone who speaks one language?  American.

I had to prove proficiency in a second language to graduate and I know Spanish.  Which was very useful living in Florida (large Cuban population), not so much in Colorado.

But honestly, I think the Brits are WAY worse than Americans at being open to other languages.  I get that this is England where English is spoken.  But the lack of knowledge of foreign languages is really shocking to me.  And it could just be my experience of my inlaws, but they don't try to learn any basic parts of languages when travelling either which annoys me.  At least learn hello, goodbye, thank you, etc.   ::)


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Re: Now asking for NHS surcharge when it was $0 for 15 year old?
« Reply #44 on: September 02, 2016, 04:24:40 PM »

Pure ignoranc

Says the person who didn't even know what on what terms he was allowed to be in the UK all these years, as you didn't look at the stamp in your passport, until I told you to ;D


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