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Greenback or Taxes For Expats?
« on: November 29, 2016, 12:39:09 PM »
Hello,

Has anyone had an experience with Taxes for Expats that they could share? Would you recommend them?

I have used Greenback so far and although their system is convenient, I feel like they are quite slapdash....I was passed around to a few different accountants in a month's time and, they made some significant errors in communication which required me resubmitting tax returns so I'm skittish about using them again.

Would be good to hear other people's experiences or if they can recommend anyone else.

What would be ideal is someone with as strong a knowledge of UK taxes as US taxes. And someone not crazily expensive (i.e. Liz Zitzow of British American tax was another referral but she's too pricey).

Thanks!


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Re: Greenback or Taxes For Expats?
« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2016, 02:04:46 PM »
Hello,

Has anyone had an experience with Taxes for Expats that they could share? Would you recommend them?

I have used Greenback so far and although their system is convenient, I feel like they are quite slapdash....I was passed around to a few different accountants in a month's time and, they made some significant errors in communication which required me resubmitting tax returns so I'm skittish about using them again.

Would be good to hear other people's experiences or if they can recommend anyone else.

What would be ideal is someone with as strong a knowledge of UK taxes as US taxes. And someone not crazily expensive (i.e. Liz Zitzow of British American tax was another referral but she's too pricey).

Thanks!
Hi. I think you can take it as a given that any of the inexpensive services simply have to make their money on volume so there's a limit to how much time and care they'll spend (divide what they charged you into a guesstimate of an experienced accountant's salary to get a sense of how many people like you they have to service.)

This doesn't excuse slapdash. But it does mean you shouldn't use them unless your return is very straightforward.  If your situation is simple the inexpensive services are a good option. But for anything tricky or complex, you're better off paying for time and attention.

But you should never put up with sloppy people, and unfortunately that happens even in the big four.  When it does, make a fuss!


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Re: Greenback or Taxes For Expats?
« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2016, 01:15:35 PM »
In terms of selecting any tax adviser to assist with US tax matters, mosty UK based individuals will want to check that any proposed tax adviser is qualified with at least one professional accounting or tax institution in the UK as well as in the United States so that they know that the adviser is adequately regulated in the UK. Indeed, more broadly, for most UK based individuals there are often considerable advantages in having a UK based adviser who can jointly advise on both US and UK tax issues and (possibly) handle both sets of tax returns in the UK.

These include:
1. The client and the adviser being located in the same time zone.
2. Client documents and workpapers being held outside of the United States; which many people perceive as providing additional protection in the event of IRS investigations.
3. Advisers outside of the European Union are unable to offer the protections to clients provided by the UKs Proceeds of Crime Act, which requires all tax professionals throughout the UK to be regulated and supervised for anti-money laundering protection purposes. Here in the UK it is a criminal offence to offer any tax preparation or advice unless the adviser is supervised. Quite unlike within the EU, there is no requirement for mandatory regulation of tax advisers in most of the United States.
4. The fact that although there are roughly one million paid tax professionals within the United States, that there are naturally only very few amongst these who understand enough about the US reporting of foreign based taxpayers.
5. Most tax advisers outside of the UK are not bound by UK ethical standards, which set out fundamental principles of integrity, objectivity, competence and care, confidentiality and behaviour (http://www.tax.org.uk/.../professional-conduct-relation...).
6. The opportunity in the unlikely event that things ever go wrong to get issues addressed through a supervisory body that is closer to the client than an adviser located several thousand miles away.


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Re: Greenback or Taxes For Expats?
« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2016, 02:29:36 PM »
Hello,

Has anyone had an experience with Taxes for Expats that they could share? Would you recommend them?

I have used Greenback so far and although their system is convenient, I feel like they are quite slapdash....I was passed around to a few different accountants in a month's time and, they made some significant errors in communication which required me resubmitting tax returns so I'm skittish about using them again.

Would be good to hear other people's experiences or if they can recommend anyone else.

What would be ideal is someone with as strong a knowledge of UK taxes as US taxes. And someone not crazily expensive (i.e. Liz Zitzow of British American tax was another referral but she's too pricey).

Thanks!

I just got a reply from Greenback that didn't answer half the questions I asked....! I haven't signed up with them.



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Re: Greenback or Taxes For Expats?
« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2016, 02:45:11 PM »
This thread is useful.  I'm looking for someone who can be both an accountant for my UK company ,  do my personal taxes and other reporting, as well as act as a financial advisor for pensions and insurance.  I can pay some money since I already pay an accountant for my UK company. 

Any recommendations or ideas?


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Re: Greenback or Taxes For Expats?
« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2016, 06:04:02 PM »
Just as with other suppliers you'd source these separately. The UK accountant can keep the company UK compliant. You'd want a dual US/UK qualified tax adviser handling your US individual, US information reporting & UK personal tax returns. Finally, you'd have an SEC & FCA regulated financial adviser on your side.


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Re: Greenback or Taxes For Expats?
« Reply #6 on: December 01, 2016, 12:14:11 AM »
I just got a reply from Greenback that didn't answer half the questions I asked....! I haven't signed up with them.

Pretty bad. They seem to just be a network of scattered accountants that take on the work in their off hours and therefore don't really dedicate full attention to it!


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Re: Greenback or Taxes For Expats?
« Reply #7 on: December 01, 2016, 11:49:21 AM »
Just as with other suppliers you'd source these separately. The UK accountant can keep the company UK compliant. You'd want a dual US/UK qualified tax adviser handling your US individual, US information reporting & UK personal tax returns. Finally, you'd have an SEC & FCA regulated financial adviser on your side.

Thanks for that.  How would I find the third person you are talking about?


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