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fiance visa application (marriage court date)
« on: November 06, 2017, 06:36:34 PM »
Hi!

I have posted here recently but I am curious when we will need to submit or post our set court marriage date if it isn't on the application? We just want to make sure we don't miss anything.

Thank you so much!

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Re: fiance visa application (marriage court date)
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2017, 06:42:50 PM »
It's your choice - you just need to get married within the 6 months of the fiance visa validity.

If you will be living in England or Wales, you'll need to be resident in the county where you will marry for at least 7 days before you can give notice to marry. When you give notice, you'll need to show your fiance visa to prove you have the right to marry in the UK.

Once you have given notice to marry, you have to wait at least 28 days before you can have the ceremony. However, as you will have a visa, your case may be referred to UKVI for further investigation, which could take up to 70 days... though as you will have already shown your relationship is genuine and you will have a visa that allows you to marry in the UK, you should hopefully only have to wait the 28 days. After that, you can get married.

However, for the visa application, you will to provide proof of plans to marry in the UK within the 6 months, so you'll need to have a date in mind, and evidence that you have either enquired about the availability of the date or possibly made a provisional ceremony booking.

So, all you need for this requirement of the visa is just an email chain with the church or registry office enquiring about possible dates.

Other things you can include:
- pictures of the dress
- pictures of the rings
- provisional bookings of anything you might have organised already


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Re: fiance visa application (marriage court date)
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2017, 06:51:27 PM »
Thank you, very helpful!

We have a date in mind (and will check with the council) but where do we put that on the application? I don't see where they ask that unless it is on another form following the initial one....


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Re: fiance visa application (marriage court date)
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2017, 07:05:58 PM »
Thank you, very helpful!

We have a date in mind (and will check with the council) but where do we put that on the application? I don't see where they ask that unless it is on another form following the initial one....

You put it as the answer to question 1.9 on the VAF4 Appendix 2 application form:
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/270484/VAF4A-Appendix2.pdf

Question 1.9:

1.9 Are you seeking permission to come to the UK as a fiancé(e) or proposed civil partner to enable your marriage or civil partnership to take place in the UK? Put a cross (x) in the relevant box
Yes    No
If ‘Yes’ when and where do you plan to marry/enter into a civil partnership?


The online application is just a generic form, with questions about you on it, and it's pretty much the same for all visa types... it won't be specific to a fiance visa. Also, it is only the first half of the application form.

All the questions about your relationship, your wedding, your accommodation and your finances are on VAF4a Appendix 2, which is the second half of the form. You need to print it and complete it by hand.

You should NOT submit the online application form until:
- you have completed VAF4a Appendix 2
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- you have gathered ALL your supporting documents and they are all ready to be submitted
AND
- you have checked and double-checked that you are not missing any documents
AND
- you are completely ready to attend your appointment to submit your application
« Last Edit: November 06, 2017, 07:07:03 PM by ksand24 »


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Re: fiance visa application (marriage court date)
« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2017, 07:44:03 PM »
Cheers! This is perfect, thank you so so much.


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Re: fiance visa application (marriage court date)
« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2017, 05:47:27 PM »
Good evening and sorry to bother again,

Do we need the exact date we plan to marry on this appendix?  The reason I ask is I would like to turn this in soon to get the appointment in Prague but we have to wait for the Notice to Marry appointment in the UK before we can set our actual date.

I just want to make sure that for now if we set the date, it will be fine if it changes in the meantime.

Thank you.


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Re: fiance visa application (marriage court date)
« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2017, 05:52:01 PM »
Good evening and sorry to bother again,

Do we need the exact date we plan to marry on this appendix?  The reason I ask is I would like to turn this in soon to get the appointment in Prague but we have to wait for the Notice to Marry appointment in the UK before we can set our actual date.

I just want to make sure that for now if we set the date, it will be fine if it changes in the meantime.

Thank you.

It's fine if it changes - you can't give notice to marry until AFTER you have received your visa, so it's not usually possible to set an actual date for the wedding until after you have moved to the UK.

All you need to show for the visa is that you are looking into possible dates for the wedding, which fall within the 6 months of the visa validity.

So, you just need to send an email to the registry office or church where you would like to get married and ask them about possible ceremony dates within a certain time period. Then you just print the email chain and include it with your application documents.


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Re: fiance visa application (marriage court date)
« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2017, 01:29:03 PM »
Hello,

I am currently reviewing the needed documents for the appointment as well as the other responses in this forum. Do I need a sponsor declaration letter if we financially meet the requirements?  If so, what exactly does this entail?

Thank you!


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Re: fiance visa application (marriage court date)
« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2017, 02:45:19 PM »
Hello,

I am currently reviewing the needed documents for the appointment as well as the other responses in this forum. Do I need a sponsor declaration letter if we financially meet the requirements?  If so, what exactly does this entail?

Thank you!

Yes, you do.

The sponsor letter is about the sponsor confirming your relationship, that they support the application and that they meet each of the requirements for the visa.

The letter should state:
- how the sponsor is eligible to be a sponsor (i.e. their UK citizenship)
- their current employment, how they meet the financial requirement and which financial category you are applying under
- where you will live once you have the visa, including address and property details
- a short (one paragraph) history of your relationship - when and where you met, when you entered into a relationship, when you got engaged, how often you see each other, how you communicate while apart, when you will marry, and why you are choosing to settle in the UK (instead of living together in a different country).
- Optional (as it will be in your contents list anyway): a list of the documents the sponsor is contributing to the application to prove they meet each requirement


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Re: fiance visa application (marriage court date)
« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2017, 12:04:45 PM »
Hello!

I have my appointment on Wednesday and I just want to be sure that this is the correct Contents List? You have extremely helpful with everything - thank you.

CONTENTS LIST


Applicant
- receipt for priority processing, if using priority
- Contents list from applicant
- Printed online application
- VAF4 Appendix 2
- Current passport
- All previous passports
- 2 passport sized photos of applicant
- Provisional flight details for applicant's flight to UK  (QUESTION: This flight date is earlier than the one I put on my application, just due to last minute changes. Will that be okay?)


Sponsor
- Sponsor declaration letter
- Scanned bio pages sponsor's passport


Finances
Mandatory
- Payslips (within 28 days of application date) -
- Bank statements (within 28 days of application date) -
- Employer Letter


Accommodation
- Tenancy agreement
- Landlord letter

Evidence of plans to marry
- Emails/receipts from the Reading Register Office confirming the appointment to give notice or emails documenting attempt to book appointment


Relationship evidence
- Photos from visits (only include 2 photos maximum)
- Any boarding passes we have, flight confirmations/e-tickets etc. from visits
- Email Summary since we met (screenshot of inbox) - IS THIS TRUE?
- Screenshots of Skype call logs going back as far as possible, one screenshot per mon - WE WHATS APP WAY MORE THAN SKYPE. IS THIS OKAY?

Do we need anything else? I will make two copies of everything. Once again, thank you so so much! I am so grateful.


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Re: fiance visa application (marriage court date)
« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2017, 12:27:42 PM »
Your list looks pretty good :).

A few comments:

- Provisional flight details for applicant's flight to UK  (QUESTION: This flight date is earlier than the one I put on my application, just due to last minute changes. Will that be okay?)

Why not just do a new flight search for a different date and print that instead? It's only optional to include it anyway, so you can always just not send a flight itinerary at all.

For the finances, if you have them, I would also include the original job contract and the latest P60. The guidance states that UKVI can ask to see them if they want to, so we normally recommend including them if you can.

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- Email Summary since we met (screenshot of inbox) - IS THIS TRUE?

Not sure what you mean by 'is this true?' It depends on the methods of communication you use as to whether it's true or not.

If you communicate by email, you should send no more than 2 pages showing a selection of emails send to each other over the period of time you have been emailing. Maybe one email per month, or one per week... depending on how much time you need to cover.

If you don't communicate by email, then you don't need to include any email inbox screenshots.

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- Screenshots of Skype call logs going back as far as possible, one screenshot per mon - WE WHATS APP WAY MORE THAN SKYPE. IS THIS OKAY?

It's up to you what you send... you need to tailor your evidence based on how you communicate.

If you always Whatsapp, but never Skype, then include a couple of pages of Whatsapp call logs covering the length of time you've been calling each other.

If you never Whatsapp or Skype, but you send emails, then you send screenshots of your email inbox.

If you Whatsapp, Skype and email, then you send a couple of pages for each one.

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I will make two copies of everything. Once again, thank you so so much! I am so grateful.

You only need to send 1 copy of any original documents you wish to be returned to you.

I would keep a copy of everything you are sending (especially the application forms) for yourself.


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Re: fiance visa application (marriage court date)
« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2017, 08:50:19 AM »
You are amazing. Thank you!

So a few more questions....

1. Do I have to give them my actual passport or just a copy of it?
2. I have my flight booked but I am concerned that I will not have the visa back in time - can I have someone pick it up for me or is it fine if I wait one month or so to pick it up? Or can I have it sent to Sheffield for example?

I may ask the forum if anyone has ever applied in Prague - it seems you can pay 640 EUR for Priority which takes about 15 days. Not sure if worth it.

Thanks again!


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Re: fiance visa application (marriage court date)
« Reply #12 on: November 21, 2017, 09:02:42 AM »
You are amazing. Thank you!

So a few more questions....

1. Do I have to give them my actual passport or just a copy of it?
2. I have my flight booked but I am concerned that I will not have the visa back in time - can I have someone pick it up for me or is it fine if I wait one month or so to pick it up? Or can I have it sent to Sheffield for example?

I may ask the forum if anyone has ever applied in Prague - it seems you can pay 640 EUR for Priority which takes about 15 days. Not sure if worth it.

Thanks again!

1- You need to provide your actual passport.

2- You are not actually supposed to book anything until your visa is in your hand. I don't know what you mean by the rest of it.

I'm not sure if the 15 days is a guarantee from Prague, it isn't any more from the US and many other countries but it is worth using priority processing unless you are in no hurry to get your visa.


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Re: fiance visa application (marriage court date)
« Reply #13 on: November 21, 2017, 09:06:06 AM »
Right.  Thank you very much, this is helpful.

I also have an older passport that is currently at my home in Oklahoma - my mother made copies of every page and sent it to me. Will that be enough for that one at least?


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Re: fiance visa application (marriage court date)
« Reply #14 on: November 21, 2017, 09:24:40 AM »
Ah, I just typed a whole reply and then realised you were applying in Prague so none of my advice was correct!

1. If you are the applicant you must send/include your actual passport... because they cannot issue the visa without is - the visa vignette will be a sticker placed in your passport in Sheffield and then sent back to you.

2. You’re not supposed to book any flights before you get the visa in case you don’t get it in time or it is refused. You cannot travel anywhere while the visa is processing because you won’t have your passport anyway. I don’t know how you get your visa in Prague though - I think you usually travel to the application centre to pick your passport up in person, but you may be able to pay for a courier service.

I doubt the 15 working days is currently correct for priority service these days, as in other countries which said priority would be ‘15 days’, the visas were actually taking 60 working days!




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