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Re: Flight to UK with Visa: what else do I need?
« Reply #15 on: November 28, 2017, 07:11:33 PM »
Anyway, @ksand24 has convinced me not to risk it, and air miles +$700 have come to the rescue. Mom and dad get a few days away to ourselves :)

Smart move. Hope she enjoys the trip!  ;D


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Re: Flight to UK with Visa: what else do I need?
« Reply #16 on: November 28, 2017, 07:16:32 PM »
@ksand24 has convinced me not to risk it, and air miles +$700 have come to the rescue. Mom and dad get a few days away to ourselves :)

Enjoy!  I would LOVE to have a bit of time with my husband without the kids.  I always wonder when that day will actually come.   ;D


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Re: Flight to UK with Visa: what else do I need?
« Reply #17 on: November 28, 2017, 07:34:19 PM »
Not thinking that she was literally part of my passport/visa for first entry -

Your sponsor is everything for your visa, at all times, not just for entry. If a sponsor decides not to sponsor anymore (spouse visa, work visa) then the visa is curtailed by UKVI.

I thought that was the point of all the documentation, application, and the actual visa. It proves I've already demonstrated that I'm joining a British citizen in the UK.

But you aren't joining your British citizen sponsor in the UK if the sponser isn't living in the UK.




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Re: Flight to UK with Visa: what else do I need?
« Reply #18 on: November 29, 2017, 09:56:07 PM »
Sirius "Your sponsor is everything for your visa, at all times, not just for entry. If a sponsor decides not to sponsor anymore (spouse visa, work visa) then the visa is curtailed by UKVI. "

So if I cut all my ties to the USA, sold all my worldly possessions. And got my Visa to join my spouse. She could say "I'm not bothered" That I would have no recourse?

Just playing Devils advocate here. When my Wife, and I went through the immigration process for her to join me here in the states. As a sponsor I was legally responsible for her no matter what issues arose.

Apples and oranges I know. Kind Regards, DA


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Re: Flight to UK with Visa: what else do I need?
« Reply #19 on: November 30, 2017, 03:20:12 AM »

So if I cut all my ties to the USA, sold all my worldly possessions. And got my Visa to join my spouse. She could say "I'm not bothered" That I would have no recourse?


This is pretty much correct. If you divorce, you lose your right to be in the UK under your spousal visa because you are no longer the spouse of a settled person. Once the HO is notified (notification is obligatory), you would be given a time Fram, which I believe is 60 days, to leave the UK.

The sponsorship part of the US immigration process is slightly different, but if you marry and have the 2-year temporary green card and divorce during that period, you are no longer eligible to adjust status to the 10-year green card under the family route. The sponsor is obligated to financially support until the end of the 2-year term only. Once on the 10 year green card couples can divorce without residency being revoked and also become entitled to some government benefits.
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Re: Flight to UK with Visa: what else do I need?
« Reply #20 on: November 30, 2017, 09:26:03 AM »
Sirius "Your sponsor is everything for your visa, at all times, not just for entry. If a sponsor decides not to sponsor anymore (spouse visa, work visa) then the visa is curtailed by UKVI. "

So if I cut all my ties to the USA, sold all my worldly possessions. And got my Visa to join my spouse. She could say "I'm not bothered" That I would have no recourse?

Just playing Devils advocate here. When my Wife, and I went through the immigration process for her to join me here in the states. As a sponsor I was legally responsible for her no matter what issues arose.

Apples and oranges I know. Kind Regards, DA

Correct.  If at any time your spouse reported a breakdown of the relationship (you do not need to be divorced, only separated) to the Home Office, you would be sent a curtailment letter giving you 60 days to qualify in another visa category or leave the country.


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Re: Flight to UK with Visa: what else do I need?
« Reply #21 on: November 30, 2017, 10:41:51 AM »
This is pretty much correct. If you divorce, you lose your right to be in the UK under your spousal visa because you are no longer the spouse of a settled person. Once the HO is notified (notification is obligatory), you would be given a time Fram, which I believe is 60 days, to leave the UK.

Yes, a letter is sent that will give 60 days from that letter to leave the UK, or to put in a valid application in that time for another visa. The lettter is sent to the address the visa holder gave UKVI and changing addresses and not informing UKVI of that, does not prevent that person from becoming an illegal overstayer.

The letters can take a while to send, so it's longer than 60 days. Or if there isn't much time left on their visa, UKVI may just decide to let it run as they won't have a sponser to extend their visa.

It's the same for other visas too. i.e. Students can lose their university/college sponsor: those on work visas can lose their employer sponsor. These too are given time to find another visa route or to leave the UK by the date given.

If you have young British children you could apply for the parent route, but that is not a given. Or a Tier 2G visa if you have the skills the UK needs and can find a work sponsor, but the emplpyer would have to carry out a RLMT and you would have to apply for that visa from your own country. Or become a student again, but that is expensive and work is limited, if work is allowed and doesn't lead to settlement in the UK. Or if you have 200k and a good business plan, you could try for the Tier 1 (E). Or find another spouse with citizenship or ILR, who can sponsor you.

It's worse for those using an EEA citizen sponsor to be in an EEA country as they don't even get the 60 days to leave that the UK gives those on UK "visas" (UK immigration rules). These lose their "automatic" "right to reside" in the UK. Their EU "Residence Card" for the UK, just becomes invalid. And those non-EEA citizens who are not married to their EEA sponsor partner, get even less rights under EU law.


The sponsorship part of the US immigration process is slightly different, but if you marry and have the 2-year temporary green card and divorce during that period, you are no longer eligible to adjust status to the 10-year green card under the family route. The sponsor is obligated to financially support until the end of the 2-year term only. Once on the 10 year green card couples can divorce without residency being revoked and also become entitled to some government benefits.

The UK spouse/partner visa was extended to 5 years for ILR because of the high number of those who left their partner sponsor as soon as they got ILR.

Even those who can get one of the very few elderly parent dependant visas (application costs about 2.5k and only a handful of these are allowed now) need to have their sponsor sign to say they will pay for them. That now includes paying all their NHS bills too, until they are granted ILR and that will be at least five years later. If they can even get that visa now.

Getting a visa to the UK, or entering the UK under the EEA regulations, doesn't mean you can stay in the UK forever. You need to have at least ILR for that.
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Re: Flight to UK with Visa: what else do I need?
« Reply #22 on: November 30, 2017, 12:59:45 PM »
Thanks, very informative. The things we do for love? My wife, and I have been married almost 12 yrs now. At least 4 yrs of that apart waiting on other people (Governments) to decide if we are worthy of living in the same country together?

Note to self, be even more thoughtful, and kind to wife. For at least 5 more years. ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)


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Re: Flight to UK with Visa: what else do I need?
« Reply #23 on: November 30, 2017, 01:20:56 PM »
Note to self, be even more thoughtful, and kind to wife. For at least 5 more years. ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)

It does go both ways though... if you were the one who decided you wanted to separate/divorce, then you (or your wife) would still have to inform UKVI of the marriage breakdown and they would then curtail your visa (https://www.gov.uk/visas-when-you-separate-or-divorce).


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Re: Flight to UK with Visa: what else do I need?
« Reply #24 on: December 02, 2017, 11:24:07 PM »
So, how about picking up the BRP? Do I need my escort then? Do I need to take her to the bathroom with me? You've got me paranoid now :)

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Re: Flight to UK with Visa: what else do I need?
« Reply #25 on: December 03, 2017, 12:23:38 AM »
No on needing them to
Pick up the brp. Went while
My husband was at work.
Just bring your letter and passport. Mine asked for proof of address as well. Not sure if everyone’s does!
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Re: Flight to UK with Visa: what else do I need?
« Reply #26 on: December 03, 2017, 04:32:10 AM »
Your sponsor is everything for your visa, at all times, not just for entry.

**Morbid question alert**

What happens if your sponsor dies?  Would the sponsored person still have to leave?
Applied from Sin City, USA
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Biometrics appointment completed Nov 6th
Package mailed to Sheffield Nov 6th
Received in Sheffield & e-mail received Nov 8th
Decision e-mail received Dec 5th
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Re: Flight to UK with Visa: what else do I need?
« Reply #27 on: December 03, 2017, 05:10:28 AM »
**Morbid question alert**

What happens if your sponsor dies?  Would the sponsored person still have to leave?
Looks like they do have allowances for bereaved partners w/ the SET(O) application. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/application-to-settle-in-the-uk-form-seto


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Flight to UK with Visa: what else do I need?
« Reply #28 on: December 03, 2017, 05:18:08 AM »
As margo said, if the sponsor dies, you can qualify for ILR as a bereaved partner.

See here for more info:
https://www.gov.uk/visas-partner-dies


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Re: Flight to UK with Visa: what else do I need?
« Reply #29 on: December 03, 2017, 05:54:02 AM »
Gotcha, thanks for the info!
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Package mailed to Sheffield Nov 6th
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Decision e-mail received Dec 5th
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