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Fiance visa application questions
« on: March 22, 2018, 07:21:43 AM »
Hi everyone!

My American/Mexican fiance is applying for a fiance visa to join me and be married in the UK. I've been through other people's document checklists, which is super helpful, but I have a couple questions:

1. My fiance changed his legal name a couple of years ago (hispanic so had 4 names in total, kept just 2 of them). Do we need to include his birth certificate and/or name change certificate?

2. Is it required that we send both of his current passports, or can we just send the US original (that we're applying with) and a notarised copy of his Mexican passport? Our lawyer seemed to think that would be fine, and said we didn't need to send expired passports (which we have lost anyways).

3. How do I get stuff notarised? Can I do it easily in the UK if I have his original docs + copies? We're currently in California where it's actually not possible for notaries to certify docs anymore!


Thanks!!
« Last Edit: March 22, 2018, 07:23:16 AM by riversilver »


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Re: Fiance visa application questions
« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2018, 07:48:14 AM »
You should send evidence of the name change.

You should send the actual passports and explain the loss of those that you don't have.



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Re: Fiance visa application questions
« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2018, 07:55:00 AM »
You should send evidence of the name change.

You should send the actual passports and explain the loss of those that you don't have.

Hey, thanks :) Could you expand on the passport point? My lawyer actually said it might be better to send only the original of the US one, so that there’s no mix up regarding which passport we want the visa in. And that she’s had clients who had old passports in storage which didn’t delay the application process - though i don’t know if she was referring to fiancé visas with this haha.


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Re: Fiance visa application questions
« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2018, 08:18:51 AM »
Hey, thanks :) Could you expand on the passport point? My lawyer actually said it might be better to send only the original of the US one, so that there’s no mix up regarding which passport we want the visa in. And that she’s had clients who had old passports in storage which didn’t delay the application process - though i don’t know if she was referring to fiancé visas with this haha.

The applicant must send ALL passport ever held, from all countries they are a national of.

So that means:
- current US passport
- all previous US passports
- current Mexican passport
- all previous Mexican passports

They must all be listed on the application but if you no longer have them because they were lost or stolen you explain why you can’t provide them.


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Re: Fiance visa application questions
« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2018, 08:25:52 AM »
Hey, thanks :) Could you expand on the passport point? My lawyer actually said it might be better to send only the original of the US one, so that there’s no mix up regarding which passport we want the visa in. And that she’s had clients who had old passports in storage which didn’t delay the application process - though i don’t know if she was referring to fiancé visas with this haha.

Looking at a paper copy of VAF4A, it specifically asks for the information of the passport that you will be using to travel to the UK so that shouldn't be a problem.  :)


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Re: Fiance visa application questions
« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2018, 08:43:03 AM »
Hey, thanks :) Could you expand on the passport point? My lawyer actually said it might be better to send only the original of the US one, so that there’s no mix up regarding which passport we want the visa in. And that she’s had clients who had old passports in storage which didn’t delay the application process - though i don’t know if she was referring to fiancé visas with this haha.

Any reason you are using a lawyer?  Do you have a criminal conviction or previous overstay in the UK?

We worry when people use lawyers for straight forward applications on here.  It is *very* easy to brand yourself as an immigration advisor in the UK.  Hoping you've done your due diligence and asked for their statistics in applications from the USA and the success rate.


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Re: Fiance visa application questions
« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2018, 11:09:35 PM »
The applicant must send ALL passport ever held, from all countries they are a national of.

So that means:
- current US passport
- all previous US passports
- current Mexican passport
- all previous Mexican passports

They must all be listed on the application but if you no longer have them because they were lost or stolen you explain why you can’t provide them.


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Hi there, thanks for taking the time to comment - please could you tell me where this requirement is listed? I've been through the requirements and can't see it anywhere. The forms only ask for details of the passport he's applying with?


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Re: Fiance visa application questions
« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2018, 11:10:52 PM »
Any reason you are using a lawyer?  Do you have a criminal conviction or previous overstay in the UK?

We worry when people use lawyers for straight forward applications on here.  It is *very* easy to brand yourself as an immigration advisor in the UK.  Hoping you've done your due diligence and asked for their statistics in applications from the USA and the success rate.

It was because she offered a free consultation (she has done work for my dad so it was really a favour) and yeah she was miles more reputable than other consultations I've had with 'immigration lawyers'!! Have certainly come across a few of those, which is why I turned to this forum.  :)


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Fiance visa application questions
« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2018, 12:47:11 AM »
Hi there, thanks for taking the time to comment - please could you tell me where this requirement is listed? I've been through the requirements and can't see it anywhere. The forms only ask for details of the passport he's applying with?

Here:
https://www.gov.uk/uk-family-visa/provide-information

From that page:

You’ll need to:
- give all your names
- give your date of birth
- send your current passport or other valid travel ID
- send your previous passports


And the supporting documents guidance:
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/270197/sup-docs-settlement.pdf

From that document:
A current and valid travel document or passport - We will not issue a visa if you do not have a valid passport or travel document to put the visa in. You should ensure that your passport has at least one blank page which is free from endorsements on both sides.

Previous passports - These are to show your previous travel history


Also, as far as I know, the application form should ask for details of all previous passports, including passport numbers and where each passport is now.

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Re: Fiance visa application questions
« Reply #9 on: March 23, 2018, 02:08:02 AM »
3. How do I get stuff notarised? Can I do it easily in the UK if I have his original docs + copies? We're currently in California where it's actually not possible for notaries to certify docs anymore!

Experts, I’m curious does this work for documents needed for visa applications as well? We had done it this way when we registered our son’s birth abroad to the UK consulate. So just wondering.

https://www.gov.uk/certifying-a-document

riversilver, I have read on this forum that you can get documents certified at post offices in the UK.

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Re: Fiance visa application questions
« Reply #10 on: March 23, 2018, 02:11:18 AM »
It was because she offered a free consultation (she has done work for my dad so it was really a favour) and yeah she was miles more reputable than other consultations I've had with 'immigration lawyers'!! Have certainly come across a few of those, which is why I turned to this forum.  :)

I would definitely stick it out with this forum if I were you. The experts here are great assets because they are very knowlegable with settlement cases particularly from the US.
#1 NON-PRIORITY UNMARRIED PARTNER
Living together since Nov 2014, son born on Mar 2016
Decision: Refusal (70 BD)
#2 PRIORITY SPOUSE
Online Application: 18 Mar 2018
Decision Made Email: 03 May 2018
Received Passport: 07 May 2018 (APPROVED)
Entered UK: 10 May 2018
#3 NON-PRIORITY FLR(M)
Online Application: 6 Jan 2021
UKVCAS Biometric Appointment: 2 Feb 2021
Decision Made Email: 22 Mar 2021 (APPROVED)


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Re: Fiance visa application questions
« Reply #11 on: March 23, 2018, 06:14:48 AM »
I would definitely stick it out with this forum if I were you. The experts here are great assets because they are very knowlegable with settlement cases particularly from the US.

Oh I absolutely plan on it from now on, the people here are great :) Thanks for the comment about the certification of docs btw!


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Re: Fiance visa application questions
« Reply #12 on: March 23, 2018, 06:15:57 AM »
Here:
https://www.gov.uk/uk-family-visa/provide-information

From that page:

You’ll need to:
- give all your names
- give your date of birth
- send your current passport or other valid travel ID
- send your previous passports


And the supporting documents guidance:
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/270197/sup-docs-settlement.pdf

From that document:
A current and valid travel document or passport - We will not issue a visa if you do not have a valid passport or travel document to put the visa in. You should ensure that your passport has at least one blank page which is free from endorsements on both sides.

Previous passports - These are to show your previous travel history


Also, as far as I know, the application form should ask for details of all previous passports, including passport numbers and where each passport is now.

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Thank you so so much for taking the time to give me these links!! It's amazing how hard it is to find such information online through google searches :S


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Re: Fiance visa application questions
« Reply #13 on: March 23, 2018, 06:20:27 AM »
Please could someone tell me if this is ok for my letter of support as a sponsor for the visa?

To the Entry Clearance Officer,

Re: Fiance visa application for [his name] [his d/o/b]

I am writing to confirm my support of [his name]’s application to enter the UK as a fiancé of a British citizen. I am a British citizen and reside and work in the UK. I have been engaged to [his name] since early February 2018, and we intend to marry at [Location] on 30 June 2018.

I am currently employed through [my employer and position] and have been employed here since September 2016. I work a contracted minimum of 36 hours per week with an hourly wage of £13:46 (previously £12:93). My salary is therefore varied but I have at all times in the last 6 months earned a total gross salary per annum of at least £24,000.

I currently reside at [my address], where I have been privately renting from [my landlord] since September 2017.

Neither [his name] nor myself have been married previously, nor do we have any dependents.

Our relationship began in August 2013, when we met while travelling in China. We have been in a relationship continuously since that time, keeping in touch daily and visiting each other’s respective countries at least once every few months. During my time as a student I was also able to stay with [his name] for three months every summer. We have spent quality time with each other’s families in Mexico and the UK, for example during Christmas holidays, and have also spent time with each other’s friends.  In order to ensure that we wanted to get married, [his name] left his job in Canada to live with me in London for 6 months (as a tourist) in August 2017. At the end of this period we decided that we wanted to be married and became engaged. Our decision to be married and reside in the UK is due to my chosen career path of becoming a solicitor in the UK, and the relative transferability of [his name]’s skill set as a [his job].

In support of [his name]’s application, we have enclosed the following documents:

1.   Evidence of my identity: Certified copy of my UK passport.

2.   Evidence of [his name]’s identity: His US passport, his Mexican passport, and a document certifying the fact that he changed his name in 2015. We have not included his previous Mexican passport as it was lost during a move. He does not have a previous US passport.

3.   Evidence that I fulfil the financial requirements of a sponsor: 6 months’ stamped bank statements for my current and savings account, 6 months’ weekly pay slips from my employer, and a letter from my employer confirming my employment and salary.

4.   Evidence of adequate accommodation: My tenancy agreement, a letter from my landlord, and a recent utility bill.

5.   Evidence of our relationship: Flight itineraries for some of our travels together and visits to each other, chronologically ordered photos of us travelling and with our families together.

6.   Evidence of our intention to be married: Receipt of registry office booking with [Registry Office] for 30 June 2018, emails with potential venues for our reception, and emails confirming the booking of a wedding photographer.


We hugely appreciate your consideration of our application, and trust that we have provided the necessary evidence for your approval.

Yours faithfully,

[My name]


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Re: Fiance visa application questions
« Reply #14 on: March 23, 2018, 06:54:24 AM »
It just needs a few tweaks - some parts are too detailed and some parts are not detailed enough. You don't really need to include the list of documents either - we used to advise it, but it seems silly to have two document lists (cover letter and sponsor letter).

For example:

To the Entry Clearance Officer,

I am writing to confirm my support of [his name]’s application to enter the UK as a fiancé of a British citizen. I am a British citizen and have lived in the UK since birth (or whenever you have lived in the UK).

I have been employed as [position] at [company name] since [X date] September 2016. I am a non-salaried employee and I am on a [permanent?] contract to work a minimum of 36 hours per week with an hourly wage of £13.46. I have been earning this wage since [date], before which I was earning an hourly wage of £12.93. Therefore I will be meeting the financial requirements under Category A (is this correct?) and am providing the required documents to show this.

When the visa has been granted, [fiance] and I will live together at [full address]. This is an X bedroom property which I have been renting since X date. I am including my original tenancy agreement along with a letter from my landlord giving [fiance] permission to live there.

Our relationship began in August 2013, when we met while travelling in China. We keep in touch daily [using what methods? Skype/email/messages?] and we have visited each other X times [give dates and locations of each visit] (DO NOT say he LIVED with you in London as a visitor because that is against visitor visa rules... he was VISITING only) . We became engaged on X date and plan to marry in the UK at [location] on Y date. We have decided to settle in the UK because I am on the career path to become a solicitor in the UK, and [fiance's] skill set is easily transferable to the UK.

Yours faithfully,

[My name]


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