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Offline jimbocz

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I'm still curious as to precisely who is pulling the strings, really. Pence scares the willies out of me, so it could be him.

That is precisely the question addressed in "The Fire and Fury" book.  The answer is amazingly, Donald Trump.  He does it all himself and does whatever he wants at the moment.  Of course, he is heavily influenced by   (during the campaign, inauguration and up until Bannon resigned)  a mix of Jared and Ivanka vs Steve Bannon.  Mostly whoever talked to him last with Fox and friends mixed in. 

Pence is a complete non-player and is openly ridiculed. 

I'm not sure puppet is good description, he is not loyal to any one person and is not really rational enough to serve one person's agenda. 


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I'm not sure puppet is good description, he is not loyal to any one person and is not really rational enough to serve one person's agenda.

From my observations, I tend to agree with this.  That's why I responded to Nan's question the way I did.  He's not one person's puppet... he's everybody's puppet.  Someone whispers some flattery and a request in his ear, and that becomes his new agenda for five minutes.
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I know there's a tsunami of crazy Trump stuff going on so that nobody can even keep track, but I saw this the other day and haven't lifted my jaw off the ground since.  Sorry I can't find version without snarky music

Trump calls Fox and friends with an incoherent rant:


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Wait a minute, that could be fake news.  Apparently he did call but that might be a spoof.  Sorry, I can't keep track.

Does anyone know? 

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All right, here's the whole thing, apparently for real



Just for a taste, here's what's at the 14 minute mark:

"Michael is uh in business.  He's really a businessman. Fairly big businesses I understand it.  I don't know his business.  But this doesn't have to do with me, Michael is a businessman.  He's got a business.  He also practices law.  I'd say the big thing is his business, and they're looking at something that has to do with his business.  I have nothing to do with his business."

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Wait a minute, that could be fake news.  Apparently he did call but that might be a spoof.  Sorry, I can't keep track.

Does anyone know? 

I need to get back to studying Power BI

Definitely not fake news, that call, particularly the last few minutes when the hosts were trying to end the conversation, was well publicized by other news programs.
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All right, here's the whole thing, apparently for real



Just for a taste, here's what's at the 14 minute mark:

"Michael is uh in business.  He's really a businessman. Fairly big businesses I understand it.  I don't know his business.  But this doesn't have to do with me, Michael is a businessman.  He's got a business.  He also practices law.  I'd say the big thing is his business, and they're looking at something that has to do with his business.  I have nothing to do with his business."

Trump is every interpreter and transcriber’s nightmare because he just rambles on and on and on......


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Trump is every interpreter and transcriber’s nightmare because he just rambles on and on and on......


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I heard some interviews with interpreters the other day talking about Trump.  They were concerned with the ethical issues of whether they should translate his idiotic words directly and make him look like an idiot, or try to clean it up and present what they think he meant to say.  Neither option is really great and the interpreters don't want to be involved with trying to guess what he actually means.  There's also the problem that most of the things he says make no sense, so they are untranslateable. 

Sort of like NPR trying to figure out if they should call the President a liar every time he lies.  They were worried that it made them sound biased and unprofessional but on the other hand people need to know that he is lying if it is a fact.

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Sort of like NPR trying to figure out if they should call the President a liar every time he lies.  They were worried that it made them sound biased and unprofessional but on the other hand people need to know that he is lying if it is a fact.

He has now passed the 3,000 mark in the verifiable lies count, that is an average of 6.5/day over the first 466 days in office (9/day over the last 2 months).

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2018/05/01/president-trump-has-made-3001-false-or-misleading-claims-so-far/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.2fba858af1d8

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In the 466 days since he took the oath of office, President Trump has made 3,001 false or misleading claims, according to The Fact Checker’s database that analyzes, categorizes and tracks every suspect statement uttered by the president.

That’s an average of nearly 6.5 claims a day.

When we first started this project for the president’s first 100 days, he averaged 4.9 claims a day. Slowly, the average number of claims has been creeping up.

Indeed, since we last updated this tally two months ago, the president has averaged about 9 claims a day.
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Now that we are talking about Trump, have you heard about all the money flowing through his ex-lawyer?  We are talking about several hundreds of thousands, if not millions. 

That guy knows where the bodies are buried and soon enough he'll be singing like  a canary.  Too bad it's getting buried under the 3,000 lies and never makes the news.  It will though.