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Re: Spouse Visa Docs - Proof of relationship
« Reply #135 on: June 26, 2018, 10:06:43 AM »
While you may get away with home printed statements (people have done in the past), UKVI will know that this is what you have done and it's up to them whether they let it slide or not. Remember, they are experts in detecting forged documents so spotting the difference (say in print or paper quality) in home printed versus original statements will be a piece of cake for them.

Right okay, you may be right here. The only difference might be the paper quality but not being a document expert, I certainly can't tell the difference. Not worth the risk then. So this is the option I am leaning towards:

1. Send all documents to my wife in US. Including verified pay slips, stamped bank statements up until June.
2. Wait until 21st of July for bank statement to be released. Call the bank first thing in the morning (its a Saturday so documentation team might only be able to do this on the Monday). However, they can put the request in for me.
3. My wife submits her visa application on 21st of July, and books her bio metrics for 3rd of August (+-1day).
4. My bank verifies statement, first thing on Monday morning (23rd July) and sends them out first class.
5. I receive my statement by the 25th at the latest . I arrange a UPS collection on 26th of July for 3 day delivery. This means , my wife will have the final missing statement by 31st of July at the very latest. She can attend her appointment on 3rd  of August.

Risks: - Statement may not reach their on time. In that case, if it doesn't arrive by 31st and we will cancel the bio metrics and apply for refund.

Now, does all of this sound feasible? This means my statement and last pay slip will be within 28 days limit. My employee letter is dated for 26/06/18 and letter from my landlord is dated for 03/07/18. So they will all be within 28 days as well. Assuming the 28 days is from application submission , then this works out.

We were not going to go with priority first, but we have changed our mind.


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Re: Spouse Visa Docs - Proof of relationship
« Reply #136 on: June 26, 2018, 10:10:12 AM »
I am feeling a lot more positive. Thank you for your input. Just need someone to say it will be okay ! Needless to say, I will change my bank account for salary deposits once this is over. There seems to be light at the end of the tunnel. Yes, this means that we won't submit out application until the 21st of July instead of next week as we had planned, but we are now going with priority which will save us 4 weeks anyway ! Now I need to tell all of this to my wife who is still asleep ! Crisis averted.


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Re: Spouse Visa Docs - Proof of relationship
« Reply #137 on: June 26, 2018, 11:48:40 AM »
That is also the case for other banks as well, but you still need to send the official ones sent in the post. You don’t want to risk a visa refusal and losing over £2,000 just for a small issue like that.

Why would it be riskier? It’s no different than her mailing everything to Sheffield from the US. She’s just putting a different address on the shipping label.

It also means she won’t have to wait for the extra document to arrive after submitting the application. She can submit it, attend biometrics a couple of days later and then mail the documents to you. You can then add the extra statement and send the documents on to Sheffield.

She can book biometrics whenever is convenient for her... so 2 weeks later is fine. If she gets the documents earlier than that, she can just try a walk-in appointment before her actual booked appointment.



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Hi,

So we finally have a solution. I will be sending everything off now and then getting my July statements stamped and send that separately. The statement will be out on the Saturday which may mean it may only get verified on Monday 23/07/18. I just want to make sure that this will be valid. Will they count the 28 days from point of statement is issued (i.e. statement date of 20th) or the stamp date (23rd). This makes a big difference for me as 25/06/18 - 20/07/18 is 25 calendar days but 25/06/18 - 23/07/18 is right on the 28 days limit which is quite risky (still within limit).


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Re: Spouse Visa Docs - Proof of relationship
« Reply #138 on: June 26, 2018, 12:02:46 PM »
The only thing that matters is that the latest payslip OR bank statement is dated no more than 28 days before the date the online application is submitted.

In this case, it will be the latest payslip that matters, which is 25th June.

As long as the online application is submitted by 23rd July AT THE LATEST, you will be fine.

The July 21st bank statement is therefore not relevant to the 28-day rule because it will DEFINITELY be within 28 days of the online application date.


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Re: Spouse Visa Docs - Proof of relationship
« Reply #139 on: June 26, 2018, 12:54:23 PM »
The only thing that matters is that the latest payslip OR bank statement is dated no more than 28 days before the date the online application is submitted.

In this case, it will be the latest payslip that matters, which is 25th June.

As long as the online application is submitted by 23rd July AT THE LATEST, you will be fine.

The July 21st bank statement is therefore not relevant to the 28-day rule because it will DEFINITELY be within 28 days of the online application date.


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Brilliant. So it will just be a waiting game for us now which is stressful enough as it is !


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« Reply #140 on: June 26, 2018, 12:58:16 PM »
Brilliant. So it will just be a waiting game for us now which is stressful enough as it is !

Yep :).

Just realised that I should have clarified:
BOTH the latest payslip and the latest bank statement (along with the employer letter) have to be dated within 28 days of the online application submission, but it’s the earliest dated of the two that is important. For you, as long as the latest bank statement is dated AFTER 25th June, you’ll be fine.


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« Reply #141 on: June 28, 2018, 08:34:31 PM »
Yep :).

Just realised that I should have clarified:
BOTH the latest payslip and the latest bank statement (along with the employer letter) have to be dated within 28 days of the online application submission, but it’s the earliest dated of the two that is important. For you, as long as the latest bank statement is dated AFTER 25th June, you’ll be fine.


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Hi ksand ,

Whilst I wait for my July statement , I have been reviewing all my documents. Just noticed something when I looked at my other statements. Firstly , this is how thy have stamped the statements

I am assuming that this is fine , as it is a stamp certifying the statements as true copies .

Secondly , I noticed that they have not stamped any of the last pages of the statements . They have stamped all the pages that contain the transactions though  . I told them that every page must be stamped as they need to verify transaction , mainly the pay slips . They might have misunderstood that as only stamping the pages with transactions .

Most of my statements are 4 pages but they have printed double side so 2 pages in total . They have stamped the first 3 containing the transactions and the account summary . The last page contains this

No transactions just info about over draft , fees etc . I have read on the requirements that every page must be stamped . I guess this need to be stamped too or is this not necessary ?

Argh this means I will have to ask them to re send all 6 statements again ! Thought I should get some advice before calling them .


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Re: Spouse Visa Docs - Proof of relationship
« Reply #142 on: June 28, 2018, 08:44:01 PM »
No, you should be fine.

It doesn’t look like the last page is actually part of the statement (as in it does not contain information about the amount of money in your account) so I shouldn’t think it’ll be an issue.

For the statements they have stamped, did they send them in the post or print them at the bank branch, or did you print them at home and then take them into the bank to be stamped?

- If they were sent in the post, they are original and do not need to be stamped at all.
- If they were printed at the bank branch and state ‘printed in branch’ on them, they also don’t need to be stamped.

The only time they need to be stamped is if you printed them at home and took them into the bank branch to be authenticated.




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Re: Spouse Visa Docs - Proof of relationship
« Reply #143 on: June 28, 2018, 08:48:46 PM »
No, you should be fine.

It doesn’t look like the last page is actually part of the statement (as in it does not contain information about the amount of money in your account) so I shouldn’t think it’ll be an issue.

For the statements they have stamped, did they send them in the post or print them at the bank branch, or did you print them at home and then take them into the bank to be stamped?

- If they were sent in the post, they are original and do not need to be stamped at all.
- If they were printed at the bank branch and state ‘printed in branch’ on them, they also don’t need to be stamped.

The only time they need to be stamped is if you printed them at home and took them into the bank branch to be authenticated.




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Argh brilliant . I don’t think they’re a big fan of me after all that facade a few days ago ! They don’t have a physical branch so everything they have sent has been via post by them . Their documentation team has printed them off , verified them . All they have done is printed the PDFs which are available on my online banking . They’re actually pretty much originals . It’s what they would post but without the stamp . I honestly don’t even know why I have decided to certify them but no harm in doing so I guess !

Is that too much ? Shall I now ask for statements without certification ? I guess I don’t need to ask them to certify the July one . But seeing as all the rest are certified , it would look dodgy if one isn’t .


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Re: Spouse Visa Docs - Proof of relationship
« Reply #144 on: June 28, 2018, 08:51:48 PM »
No, leave the ones that are stamped. And as long as the unstamped one was original and came through the mail that's fine too.
I always had my statements printed in branch but had them stamp them too.  :)
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Re: Spouse Visa Docs - Proof of relationship
« Reply #145 on: June 28, 2018, 09:00:39 PM »
Is that too much ? Shall I now ask for statements without certification ? I guess I don’t need to ask them to certify the July one . But seeing as all the rest are certified , it would look dodgy if one isn’t .

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No, you don’t need to do anything.

I was just assuring you that what you have is fine and is actually more than you needed to do, since there was no requirement to get them stamped anyway.

The stamps are not a problem - I was just saying that it doesn’t matter if some aren’t stamped, because none of them actually need to be stamped.


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Re: Spouse Visa Docs - Proof of relationship
« Reply #146 on: June 28, 2018, 09:11:54 PM »
No, you don’t need to do anything.

I was just assuring you that what you have is fine and is actually more than you needed to do, since there was no requirement to get them stamped anyway.

The stamps are not a problem - I was just saying that it doesn’t matter if some aren’t stamped, because none of them actually need to be stamped.


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Yeah I realised that I have over done it to some extent . I have been spending too much time reading horror stories about how a small error has lead to refusals . It’s a very fine margin . I know that the statements , pay slips , employment letter is usually where people get caught out ! I feel confident about our application but until it’s done , the stress will always be there


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Re: Spouse Visa Docs - Proof of relationship
« Reply #147 on: June 28, 2018, 10:30:24 PM »
No, leave the ones that are stamped. And as long as the unstamped one was original and came through the mail that's fine too.
I always had my statements printed in branch but had them stamp them too.  :)



Do I need to answer 3.22? In 3.21 , I have already stated that the annual income from current employment meets the requirements .

3.22 is asking if I haven’t been with the same employer for 6 months , so I will leave this blank ?

It doesn’t give a prompt on 3.21 to say , if yes go to x .

Also , after this questions are categories 3B - Part 5. So I don’t have to fill out anything there .

I have filled appendix 2 out on my wife’s behalf seeing as most of the info required are mine anyway . There’s nowhere to sign this so I am guessing this doesn’t need to be signed by my wife . I will send this along with the other documents to her .

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Re: Spouse Visa Docs - Proof of relationship
« Reply #148 on: June 28, 2018, 10:41:52 PM »
Do I need to answer 3.22? In 3.21 , I have already stated that the annual income from current employment meets the requirements .

3.22 is asking if I haven’t been with the same employer for 6 months , so I will leave this blank ?

It doesn’t give a prompt on 3.21 to say , if yes go to x .

Yes, you leave 3.22 blank as it does not apply to you.

So, you fill out Part 3A as follows:
3.4 - Yes
3.5 - 3.10 - Your employment details
3.11 - Put the annual salary you are relying on, as listed on your employer letter
3.12 - Yes
Go to 3.21
3.21 - Yes
3.22 - leave blank

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Also , after this questions are categories 3B - Part 5. So I don’t have to fill out anything there .

Yes, that's correct.

You fill out:
Part 1
Part 2
Part 3A
Then you:
Skip the rest of Part 3
Skip Part 4
Only fill out Part 5 if you have anything to add, but most people leave it blank

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I have filled appendix 2 out on my wife’s behalf seeing as most of the info required are mine anyway . There’s nowhere to sign this so I am guessing this doesn’t need to be signed by my wife . I will send this along with the other documents to her .

No, it doesn't need to be signed.


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Re: Spouse Visa Docs - Proof of relationship
« Reply #149 on: June 29, 2018, 02:11:36 AM »
Oh no... I answered 3.21 on my application originally, but when I was reviewing the information, I thought I had answered it by mistake so I printed off a new page and left it blank. Is that going to be a problem??
FLR(M) Timeline:
Application type: Spouse settlement visa extension (super priority)
BRP expiration: Late May 2021
Online application submitted: April 14, 2021
Biometrics appointment: April 25, 2021
Decision made: April 26, 2021 - emailed at 1:40 pm


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