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Re: Colorado > < Devon...what to do..
« Reply #30 on: May 17, 2018, 11:51:34 AM »
You'll learn all about how to identify the speed limit based on street lighting, number of lanes, etc. when you get your UK license.
And then you forget as soon as you take those L plates off your car. 

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Re: Colorado > < Devon...what to do..
« Reply #31 on: May 17, 2018, 04:02:56 PM »
And then you forget as soon as you take those L plates off your car.
I barely remember....haven't killed anybody so far. Just don't stand in the road on my way to the golf course....you'd be toast.
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Re: Colorado > < Devon...what to do..
« Reply #32 on: May 17, 2018, 05:53:55 PM »
I barely remember....haven't killed anybody so far. Just don't stand in the road on my way to the golf course....you'd be toast.

My retired relatives in the states live in golf course communities and drive golf carts all around.  And play golf all day.  Baby Boomers in the States.

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Re: Colorado > < Devon...what to do..
« Reply #33 on: May 18, 2018, 01:43:22 PM »
  I have sat through two entire days of speed awareness training where all we did was talk about stupid speed limits for 6 hours straight. 

That was your punishment for your driving offence and it was your choice to do that rather than take the fine and points on your driving licence instead. :)

How did you manage to get a second Speed Awareness course, when you were caught speeding again? They usually only allow one chance of choosing to go on a one day Speed Awareness Course to avoid getting a fine and points on your licence. After that, further offending is large fines and points on your driving licence/removal of your driving licence.

For the most part, but they really are bad on the motorway.  Until recently, nobody got any training on how to drive on a motorway and it showed.

The UK has 2 lane/3 lane/4 lane "A roads" with the same speed limit as a motorway, that look like motorways (apart form the different coloured signs) that learner drivers always practiced on.
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Re: Colorado > < Devon...what to do..
« Reply #34 on: May 18, 2018, 02:32:30 PM »
You'll learn all about how to identify the speed limit based on street lighting, number of lanes, etc. when you get your UK license.

Don't you mean, you need to know all this before you drive on the roads? :) Ignorance is no excuse in the eyes of the law. Those on a foreign licence cannot be dealt with at the side of the road (if their driving offence allows that and the police officer decides to do that instead of taking the matter straight to the court) and these end up in court. It's why I have always said it is better to get a UK driving licence asap when you move to the UK.

The laws for the roads in Great Britain. The island of Great Britain includes England, Scotland and Wales. -

"The Highway Code is essential reading for everyone."
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/the-highway-code/introduction

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/the-highway-code/index




New laws being planned to try to stop dangerous drivers and dangerous cyclists-

Ministers confirm plans to introduce tougher sentences for those who drive irresponsibly and devastate lives.

-life sentences will be introduced for those who cause death by dangerous driving, and for careless drivers who kill while under the influence of drink or drugs
-new offence of causing serious injury through careless driving to be created
-part of government action to make roads safer for all and stop devastation caused by dangerous drivers and cyclists


https://www.gov.uk/government/news/life-sentences-for-killer-drivers


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Re: Colorado > < Devon...what to do..
« Reply #35 on: May 18, 2018, 03:45:21 PM »
And, of course 60mph on rural two-lane roads is insane!

It's a speed limit, not a target :) We judge the conditions of the road and the weather, and drive at a safe speed, but not over the limit for that road. Dangerous driving and careless driving, are offences.

https://www.gov.uk/speed-limits

"You must not drive faster than the speed limit for the type of road and your type of vehicle. The speed limit is the absolute maximum - it doesn’t mean it’s safe to drive at this speed in all conditions."


What careless driving and dangerous driving is and the penalties.
https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/articles/careless-and-dangerous-driving

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Re: Colorado > < Devon...what to do..
« Reply #36 on: May 18, 2018, 04:31:55 PM »
How did you manage to get a second Speed Awareness course, when you were caught speeding again? They usually only allow one chance of choosing to go on a one day Speed Awareness Course to avoid getting a fine and points on your licence. After that, further offending is large fines and points on your driving licence/removal of your driving licence.
You can take a speed awareness course every three years.  Jeez, you make everything sound so dramatic.  Two tickets in 11 years is no big deal.   
The UK has 2 lane/3 lane/4 lane "A roads" with the same speed limit as a motorway, that look like motorways (apart form the different coloured signs) that learner drivers always practiced on.
If you think an A road is the same as a motorway, that might be an indicator of the breadth of the problem :)

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Re: Colorado > < Devon...what to do..
« Reply #37 on: May 18, 2018, 04:39:27 PM »
Don't you mean, you need to know all this before you drive on the roads? :) Ignorance is no excuse in the eyes of the law. Those on a foreign licence cannot be dealt with at the side of the road (if their driving offence allows that and the police officer decides to do that instead of taking the matter straight to the court) and these end up in court. It's why I have always said it is better to get a UK driving licence asap when you move to the UK.

The laws for the roads in Great Britain. The island of Great Britain includes England, Scotland and Wales. -

"The Highway Code is essential reading for everyone."
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/the-highway-code/introduction

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/the-highway-code/index




New laws being planned to try to stop dangerous drivers and dangerous cyclists-

Ministers confirm plans to introduce tougher sentences for those who drive irresponsibly and devastate lives.

-life sentences will be introduced for those who cause death by dangerous driving, and for careless drivers who kill while under the influence of drink or drugs
-new offence of causing serious injury through careless driving to be created
-part of government action to make roads safer for all and stop devastation caused by dangerous drivers and cyclists


https://www.gov.uk/government/news/life-sentences-for-killer-drivers

Sirius, if you read the Highway Code for each country you are visiting prior to your arrival - HATS OFF.

While I consider myself risk averse and a law abider - I have not once looked up the driving laws for another country when hiring a car.  I just follow the signs....

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Re: Colorado > < Devon...what to do..
« Reply #38 on: May 18, 2018, 05:32:07 PM »

While I consider myself risk averse and a law abider - I have not once looked up the driving laws for another country when hiring a car.  I just follow the signs....

Everyone makes their own choices :) Some countries require drivers to always carry certain items and it is an offence if they don't and there are not signs up for that on their roads, not that I have seen. Ignorantia legis neminem excusat.

rj47 comes across as an intelligent person and that link I gave him to the UK speed limits is very easy to understand and only takes minutes to read. He might know those limits and already had a look at relevant parts of the Highway Code?
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Re: Colorado > < Devon...what to do..
« Reply #39 on: May 18, 2018, 06:45:31 PM »
You can take a speed awareness course every three years.  Jeez, you make everything sound so dramatic.  Two tickets in 11 years is no big deal.   If you think an A road is the same as a motorway, that might be an indicator of the breadth of the problem :)

When you drive to London from France, have you ever used the M2? Have you ever noted how that just rolls into the A2, but is still 3 or 4 lanes wide and still the same speed limit? Or have you never noticed that the motorway has ended and turned into an A road because it all looks the same, apart from the colour of the road signs, if you noticed them? There are always learner drivers on these type of A roads, not just the A2, and they turn off the A road before it turns into an M road.

The other day we were on a road and I didn't know the speed limit!  Sorry, maybe I'm just thick but that's what signs are for!  Just put up a few signs with the numbers on them.

How could you not know what the speed limit was? ??? It's the same for every type of road, according to what you are driving, unless the local council, or Highways England or the motorway, has speed reductions and then they are signed. e.g. parts of London are always 20mph and they are signed to let drivers know that it is not a 30.


 
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