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US Tax Forms - First Timer
« on: May 31, 2018, 10:34:33 PM »
Quick background, my wife is a USC living in the UK since Dec 16, I am a UKC. We have not filed taxes since she has been here but given that I'm an accountant in the UK I would very much like to get used to doing her taxes myself, however, I am confused just which forms to file...

Jan 16 - Dec 16 my wife was a student and didn't have any earnings, therefore I am assuming that nothing needs to be filed.
Jan 17-Dec 17 my wife worked for around 6 months earning around £11,000 (not sure on USD rate for IRS for the equivalent)
Neither year did she have any bank accounts with more than $2,000 at any point and she does not have any assets in her name of major value (e.g. house)

So to conclude, does she need to file for either year and if so what forms? Any help is so greatly appreciated!


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Re: US Tax Forms - First Timer
« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2018, 11:52:58 PM »
Hi. If she earned nothing and had no other income in 2016, there's nothing to report so she is not required to file ----  unless she had taxable scholarship/fellowship income. (Ghastly as it seems, the USA taxes some student financial aid.)  https://www.irs.gov/individuals/students

She might possibly be able to file a late return for 2016 and claim some tax benefits https://studentaid.ed.gov/sa/types/tax-benefits   There were some programs in 2016 (Hope program) that no longer exist, but perhaps...?

For 2017 she would file a 1040 or 1040A form.  She'd file married filing separately, to keep you and your income out of the mix.  I believe she can use the foreign earned income exclusion https://www.irs.gov/individuals/international-taxpayers/foreign-earned-income-exclusion   to keep from having to pay any US taxes at all, but she'll still have to file. 

SO, 1040(A?), a 2555(EZ?) https://www.irs.gov/forms-pubs/about-form-2555-ez-foreign-earned-income-exclusion   If the bank accounts were in the UK, she has to report them on part 3 of the "Schedule B" form, regardless of how much is in them. https://www.irs.gov/forms-pubs/about-schedule-b-form-1040

As she's been out of the country (USA) so long, the ACA mandate doesn't apply, so that's good. (I think there's still a form to fill out unless she's got ACA-compliant insurance.) I may be delusional, but 2017 looks pretty straight-forward and easy. I'm sure someone else will chime in here (and hope they do) to set things straight if I've told you wrong.
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Re: US Tax Forms - First Timer
« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2018, 08:36:55 AM »
Your wife should have filed as normal for 2016 as she was in the US for essentially the entire 2016 tax year. If you were married as of December 31, she would have filed 'married filing separately' to avoid adding your income into the mix - something you definitely want to avoid. This is the link to the overall guide which you need to read: https://www.irs.gov/publications/p54. Of course it is written in 'federalese' compounded by IRS obscurity, but essentially everything for a simple return is in there. I use the 'Free Fillable Forms' to file, as my returns are simple at the moment - see https://www.freefilefillableforms.com/#/fd. Many folks use TurboTax.

She has to file Form 8965 to claim the ACA exemption for 2017. Her income for 2017 needs to be converted to US$, and there is no official rate. Read this to see what is acceptable: https://www.irs.gov/individuals/international-taxpayers/yearly-average-currency-exchange-rates. As she was present in the UK for all of 2017, she does quality for FEIE under both the bona fide residence test and the physical presence test.

She may or may not need to file Fin-Cen 116 (AKA FBAR). That kicks in if at any point during the tax year (calendar year) the aggregate maximum value of all financial accounts (either owned by the taxpayer or an account over which the taxpayer has signature authority) hits the magic $10K threshold. There's fuzzy math involved which could come into play. For example, if she had an account with $5K at bank A, and switched to bank B, and moved all of the money, despite having only $5K in *real money*, the Treasury Department considers it $10K - and she would need to file. It's an on-line informational filing only, and goes to the Treasury Dept., not the IRS. It is normally due on April 15th of the year following the tax year.

Your wife will likely NOT owe any US tax, but with £11K in income, she would need to file for 2017. Going forward, it is wise to file even if she doesn't need to do so - it's a much needed paper trail in some cases.
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Re: US Tax Forms - First Timer
« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2018, 08:02:09 PM »
Hi

My husband is the USC, and has no clue about filing his taxes over here, as he always used a professional in the U.S.
I use Taxact.com, and paper file his forms back to America, have done this since he arrived here in 2015.
I'm a complete novice when it comes to tax, but this website has been invaluable.  It talks you through step by step and completes the relevant forms for you.

Good luck!  US tax forms are awful!   >:(    :) :)
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Re: US Tax Forms - First Timer
« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2018, 10:03:00 AM »
Hi

My husband is the USC, and has no clue about filing his taxes over here, as he always used a professional in the U.S.
I use Taxact.com, and paper file his forms back to America, have done this since he arrived here in 2015.
I'm a complete novice when it comes to tax, but this website has been invaluable.  It talks you through step by step and completes the relevant forms for you.

Good luck!  US tax forms are awful!   >:(    :) :)

Great post Gaby. I agree that most folks should try to prepare their own returns if they are comfortable with money and numbers. Hopefully the software you are using optimises between electing to claim the foreign earned income exclusion and foreign tax credits, explains about reporting of UK pension plans and ISAs and reminds him to file an FBAR with the US Treasury each year.


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Re: US Tax Forms - First Timer
« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2018, 10:02:27 PM »
Decided to go down the route of turbo tax online filing but the form is asking for my SSN, although i don't have one as i'm a UKC. I have selected married filing separately so i'm not really sure why it is asking me, has anyone else dealt with something similar?


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Re: US Tax Forms - First Timer
« Reply #6 on: June 14, 2018, 11:46:05 PM »
Decided to go down the route of turbo tax online filing but the form is asking for my SSN, although i don't have one as i'm a UKC. I have selected married filing separately so i'm not really sure why it is asking me, has anyone else dealt with something similar?
Does it give you the option to choose non resident alien for yourself? Your spouse is the main one filing, as the NRA spouse you likely have nothing to file but they still want your details on her return.


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